Widespread depression or anxiety?

[Trogon]

Yesterday, a friend of mine who identifies as Wiccan mentioned something interesting to me. He mentioned that apparently some members of a coven he belongs to had been saying that they're suffering from unusual depression, sadness or anxiety. I had to admit that off and on, I had been depressed more than usual of late.

 

I'm wondering if anyone else had been noticing the same things in themselves and/or others around them? Do you think this might have it's roots in the world situation at this time - so much hatred and fear all around us? Or perhaps might it simply be related to the shortening days as we move into Fall and towards Winter? If it is seasonal, then I would expect that folks in the Southern Hemisphere might be experiencing a reversal as they move towards the longer days of Spring and Summer - is this the case?

 

What are your thoughts?

[gregory]

Funny you should mention it.

 

YES - it is a HUGE issue on another forum I am on. Much much worse than can be accounted for by the seasons.

[Stormdancer]

aYUP!  HUGE.

 

I keep getting the reminder that I am NOT generating it from within, but picking it up around.  Trying to do lots of shielding, and salt scrubs to release what is NOT MINE.

 

Sometimes it works better than other times.

[EmpyreanKnight]

I do sometimes feel deeply, inexplicably sad, but I don't think that qualifies as depression at all since it's not chronic. I've learned to pull myself out of those quickly, since the boss won't like it if I pull a long face in front of important clients.

[gregory]

This isn't depression. I KNOW depression; I've been fighting it all my life. This is more cosmic, deeper and something one is acutely conscious one cannot fix. Not something one can fight; it's more a matter of shielding yourself. With depression you can "answer back". Not this stuff.

[Page of Ghosts]

I'm usually extra gloomy this time of year but I admit the global situation and international news are not helping one bit.

[katrinka]

I'm going to make a concerted effort to say this without getting political -

We're in trouble. And extreme danger.

A friend of mine compared watching the antics of a certain person on the world stage to the time he got a tooth pulled in Juarez with no drugs or anesthesia, and laughed so hard he sprayed blood on the dentist's face mask.

Sometimes things are so horrible that you have to laugh.

And a lot of us are laughing blood.

[Stormdancer]

I'm going to make a concerted effort to say this without getting political -

We're in trouble. And extreme danger.

A friend of mine compared watching the antics of a certain person on the world stage to the time he got a tooth pulled in Juarez with no drugs or anesthesia, and laughed so hard he sprayed blood on the dentist's face mask.

Sometimes things are so horrible that you have to laugh.

And a lot of us are laughing blood.

I know some that travel from elsewhere to here (north america), and they've noted that it's "worse" here..for unpolitical obvious reasons BUT

 

It's NOT just here.  This is Global.  I call it The Deep Dark Walking.....it's more awake....and feeding if we're in the way.

 

Sorry.  Some BIG dreams over the last few years....dreams that were not dreams. 

 

Soon I'm gonna sound ready for a rubber room as has been suggested elsewhere, but.....If we can try to NOT pick up and resonate that which is not TRULY OURS, however we do so, that might be helpful.

 

OH...and one of the Wisest Woman I Know.....FAN that inner light.....The Deep Dark can't abide that.

 

[Melissa]

At the risk of sounding like I'm totally wacko, I just found a wee bit of comfort find this thread.

 

I've always battled with depression. Though for weeks now I feel like I'm moving through my days like I'm battling through thick mud. Crying on and off for no reason. Experiencing a complete roller coaster of emotions within a matter of minutes on repeat.

 

Then just today, I literally thought outloud to myself that "this isn't even me". Meaning not my normal depression. It feels foreign. Like I just zipped up collective energy suit around me and have unknowingly let it consume me. [emoji53]

 

Then here you all are and I don't feel so alone. I promise I'm pretty normal otherwise.

[gregory]

That's it exactly, Melissa. You aren't wacko at all.

 

This is something else. Something deeply awful. Almost like the world is getting its own back - except that I cannot see the world as malign. The worst of everything seems to be leaking out and taking some of us over.

[Onaorkal]

Well I do feel like all of you, but it became like that after I turned vegan and started to realize how our capitalist societies can work in truly disgusting ways. It seems that once you open your eyes to what is going on around you instead of keeping your head in the sand, you can't go back. And it hits terribly hard.

 

I'm getting kind of nihilistic myself to be honest haha. That's the only kind of 'detachment' I've found to work a bit. Still, I'm trying to work on being a bit positive in my daily life because the stress and anxiety are taking their toll, day after day!

 

It's interesting to see that other people feel like that though, apart from the vegan community and other 'social justice warriors' (I use this term in a non-derogatory way, I consider as one myself). I mean, most people around me don't seem to see any problem at all in the world we live in! I bet it's highly related to that 6th sense of intuition and connection with the Earth and between all living beings.

[katrinka]

It's interesting to see that other people feel like that though, apart from the vegan community and other 'social justice warriors' (I use this term in a non-derogatory way, I consider as one myself).

 

When people oppose your ideas, they will make whatever you are a derogatory term, and use the most lunatic fringe as the definition. EX: If you look up the dictionary definition of "liberal", it certainly isn't an infantilized "snowflake", but I see it used as an epithet for that every day. Social justice is not a bad thing. It needs to happen and it's worth fighting for.

 

I really don't care anymore what certain people call me. Their opinion is irrelevant to me.

 

We just do the best we can, and in the end, if we can look at ourselves in the mirror, we win, in a way. A lot of them won't be able to do that.

 

[Cocobird55]

I have PTSD. My anxiety overall has increased because of the turmoil. I am worried about the future of my country -- US

 

[Flaxen]

What a relief to see this thread. I was just having this conversation with a friend the other day - there is something really dark emerging and it's been so important to clear/shield regularly to avoid feeling overwhelmed. The worst thing is when it makes me doubt all the spiritual work I've done as it then chips away at what has been a source of light and strength for me.

[Guest]

A friend of mine and I were discussing this recently too! I'm surprised that a lot of other people are feeling the same thing and I have to say, that doesn't bode well.

 

Hopefully we can overcome these feelings to be able to spread some light into the world...it definitely needs it!

[Saturn Celeste]

I'm going to make a concerted effort to say this without getting political -

We're in trouble. And extreme danger.

A friend of mine compared watching the antics of a certain person on the world stage to the time he got a tooth pulled in Juarez with no drugs or anesthesia, and laughed so hard he sprayed blood on the dentist's face mask.

Sometimes things are so horrible that you have to laugh.

And a lot of us are laughing blood.

You are totally right!  Since I have felt the Cosmic Sadness coming on for the past year I have said repeatedly that tarot readers, psychics and spiritualists need to be ready for business because we are going to be busy as things continue to crumble around us.  Because of my disease I will most likely be on meds the rest of my life which is OK, the meds keep me stable.

[Trogon]

So now this discussion brings to mind the question of what we can do about it? It is undoubtedly possible that we can each work separately on ourselves and our individual spaces to shield and clear the negativity. But, if it's as wide-spread as it seems, it will be a constant battle. I wonder what it would take to organize a world-wide day of ... I don't know ... positivity? Prayer? It should be something in which people of all beliefs and religions could participate. With so many people on the internet, it should be doable. What do you all think?

[Onaorkal]

So now this discussion brings to mind the question of what we can do about it? It is undoubtedly possible that we can each work separately on ourselves and our individual spaces to shield and clear the negativity. But, if it's as wide-spread as it seems, it will be a constant battle. I wonder what it would take to organize a world-wide day of ... I don't know ... positivity? Prayer? It should be something in which people of all beliefs and religions could participate. With so many people on the internet, it should be doable. What do you all think?

 

Call me pessimistic, but I think it will need more than that for the Earth and its Earthlings to get better. People from all around the world would need to change their lifestyles and stop taking everything for granted (the Earth and everything it offers us). A mere moment of positive thinking/meditation everyday won't truly help anyone.

 

Even most people who do realize something IS wrong prefer to keep their bad habits instead of changing them. So I don't know what hope is left then? (Yeah you can truly call me pessimistic. Must be the weather.)

[gregory]

I'm not sure what we can do either. I have just had my mother on the phone for an hour or so wishing she were dead. She has always been utterly gloomy, but this is new. And she says she is so tired she just wants to sleep for ever - and I feel rather the same. Whatever it is wants us not to see it - to sleep-walk through whatever it is up to.

[Trogon]

Well, pessimism should probably be my middle name. So, I'm not far behind on that scale. Especially when it comes to the human race. We have definitely proven time and again just how truly awful we can be towards one another. And these days, there are so many of us and we continue to be cruel, barbaric and constantly have the threat of evil hanging over us.

 

Sigh.

 

And, no one day of a relative (from a world-wide perspective) handful of us trying to add some positivity to the planet may not do much. But ...

[Saturn Celeste]

 

And, no one day of a relative (from a world-wide perspective) handful of us trying to add some positivity to the planet may not do much. But ...

You start small and build.  This is a really nice community here with so many positive vibes.  As this forum grows so will the positive attitudes and as we participate in other forums, we take this positivity with us and that's how it starts.  One person at a time.

[gingerblue]

Yesterday, a friend of mine who identifies as Wiccan mentioned something interesting to me. He mentioned that apparently some members of a coven he belongs to had been saying that they're suffering from unusual depression, sadness or anxiety. I had to admit that off and on, I had been depressed more than usual of late.

 

I'm wondering if anyone else had been noticing the same things in themselves and/or others around them? Do you think this might have it's roots in the world situation at this time - so much hatred and fear all around us? Or perhaps might it simply be related to the shortening days as we move into Fall and towards Winter? If it is seasonal, then I would expect that folks in the Southern Hemisphere might be experiencing a reversal as they move towards the longer days of Spring and Summer - is this the case?

 

What are your thoughts?

 

Yes. YES. A feeling of doom. Not personal, either. I mean it's like a dark cloud over things but it doesn't feel like the dark cloud is *only* over me, which is how anxiety and depression can feel. For me it's been going on for a few years, but it became a lot more intense summer of 2016. I keep telling my husband I have this weird feeling like another universe bumped into ours and something shifted in a really funky way. Things just seemed to be "off" and I find myself waiting for the results of "cause and effect" on a worldwide scale and it's just not happening the way it seems like it should and it's making me question everything.

 

I do, however, have to say that this "#MeToo" shift in consciousness (people coming out with their stories of sexual abuse and a lot of abusers actually being taken to task for it) has actually made my antenna perk up a bit- I'm curious to see what's next, and if this seed of awareness and "this is NOT okay and we've had enough" might actually ripen into something meaningful. Curious, but not terribly optimistic based on how things have been going. I'm terribly afraid that this will all be swept under the rug. But still- it is something.

[Trogon]

I do, however, have to say that this "#MeToo" shift in consciousness (people coming out with their stories of sexual abuse and a lot of abusers actually being taken to task for it) has actually made my antenna perk up a bit- I'm curious to see what's next, and if this seed of awareness and "this is NOT okay and we've had enough" might actually ripen into something meaningful. Curious, but not terribly optimistic based on how things have been going. I'm terribly afraid that this will all be swept under the rug. But still- it is something.

 

What concerns me about this is the way it is being politicized. It seems as though it is being used as a hammer to go after political opponents. While the numbers of people coming forward is disturbing, I have to wonder if, in some cases, they aren't just jumping on a bandwagon because they can.

 

Don't get me wrong. I am not downplaying the trauma to the victims of sexual abuse or sexual assault. In my line of work I have worked with many such victims, far too many of them. But rather what I mean is the accusations, the coming forward being used to crush a rival. It sensationalizes the abusers and trivializes the true victims in my opinion.

[DownUnderNZer]

 

Not experienced any depression or unusual sadness and no one I have spoken to here in Australia or NZ has either, but most would feel the impact of what goes on in the world as well as in our own countries. No one is immune really so there is a certain level of empathy and/or understanding. Also, the future is probably a concern for most I would think.

 

But something dark or something happening that is not good?

 

If it is true about Indigo children then there is hope if the world crashes down around us, and if there is the possibility that we will have no electricity globally if the Ozone layer depletes it completely, it might be an idea to have a backup plan.

 

There is always hope no matter what and even in the face of adversity.

 

My plan if ever the worse went down would be to return to the fold of my family in NZ as I do believe they have these up and running windmills to produce power, like generators, and they know how to fish, hunt, and grow vegetable gardens. Not survival of the fittest, but due to circumstances not of their own making and because it is the life they know.

 

Find something that makes you feel good even if it is just a distraction for an hour or two.

 

Life is too short to be down in the dumps.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[gingerblue]

Find something that makes you feel good even if it is just a distraction for an hour or two.

 

Life is too short to be down in the dumps.

 

Unfortunately, it's not quite *that* easy for a lot of us- if we could flip our moods to "distracted" or "content", I think most of us would do it in a heartbeat.