"Working" with a Deck

[Symph]

So after some back and forth periods of weariness about the Tarot I am truly out of the woods.  Not only do I not worry about what I'm doing, I am growing in excitement to become a better reader and bond with my decks but I find that I don't really know how to do that.  I want to start reading for myself again or reading on things by myself somehow, just to become regular and familiar with my decks.  I'd like to start keeping a deck with me all the time, I know that some people pull a daily card and meditate on it.  But basically I just have trouble coming up with questions TO ask my decks, I'm not very curious about my own life I'm quite content to let it unfold as it does, I don't want to know all about my future so I have no desire to ask about that.  

So I was just curious to hear how you guys "work with your decks" so to speak, those of you who have daily practices what do you ask your decks?  How does one start living by the Tarot or... making this a true lifestyle?  I want to dive in I'm just not quite sure how to.  Not looking for step by step advice exactly, just thought those of you who have personal daily practices or methods could share what you do and if something resonates with me I might try it.  If there's already a thread like this feel free to point me to it and shut this one down.  

[Lady Butterfly]

There was a thread a while ago about practice reading. I recall one of the suggestions was to read on fictional characters/events. What does the future hold for your favourite TV hero? Where might the story do for you favourite book series? What would it take for your favourite movie hero to settle down into a life of suburban bliss? etc.

 

As for working with the cards in other ways, I have just recently started to work through my deck taking a card a day: I study the image, imagine the story of what is going on. Imagine the feelings of the people featured in it. Consider how it might unfold from there. etc. Then I try to write a short 'story' about what I have imagined. Sometimes it's long, others, it's barely a paragraph. I don't stick to the card meaning for these, I just let the thoughts and feelings flow.

[Symph]

27 minutes ago, Lady Butterfly said:

There was a thread a while ago about practice reading. I recall one of the suggestions was to read on fictional characters/events. What does the future hold for your favourite TV hero? Where might the story do for you favourite book series? What would it take for your favourite movie hero to settle down into a life of suburban bliss? etc.

 

As for working with the cards in other ways, I have just recently started to work through my deck taking a card a day: I study the image, imagine the story of what is going on. Imagine the feelings of the people featured in it. Consider how it might unfold from there. etc. Then I try to write a short 'story' about what I have imagined. Sometimes it's long, others, it's barely a paragraph. I don't stick to the card meaning for these, I just let the thoughts and feelings flow.

I like the fictional characters idea.  I think part of my issue with all this is that I've been told that to practice I should just make fictitious practice spreads and then think of all the possible meanings etc, and the idea just bores me.  I wanna do something REAL with my decks, I wanna do something that requires me to start trying to tap into my intuition cause that shit is real.  I'll just go ahead and say that I've been to jail before, and the first time I went?  The day before I was arrested, I just knew I was going to be, and I woke my mother up from her sleep and told her "hey, tomorrow I'm going to be arrested but I have been told it's going to be ok so don't freak out" and the next day I was.  (Not because of anything terrible I did it was this complicated misunderstanding) 

       My point is just... I don't wanna just "play" with my cards, I wanna play with my intuition!  The fictional characters is a step in the right direction but just.. how can I practice on something a little more real...

[Symph]

@Lady Butterfly I'm about to go back to sleep, just woke up for some water, but I had a thought while drinking some water, what if I take a show that I really like, right now I'm watching "StarGate Atlantis" and it's full of cliff hangers and "what's gonna happen" moments, what if I start using the Tarot to try and predict with greater and greater detail the outcomes of the shows?  Anyone ever tried this?  Seems like a valid way to actually test the accuracy of my intuition afterward.  

[gregory]

It is indeed; Ricklef suggests exactly that (and so do others). Another one is to read for fairytales, novels etc.

[AJ-ish/Sharyn]

if you read mystery stories, when you pick up your book, do a reading for who dunit and why. For the year I was doing this exercise, I'd put the result in the back of the book to pick over afterwards. 

[Symph]

Alright I like this idea!   I'm also curious about "getting to know myself" through my cards or like, doing shadow work through them, but I will start with predicting the outcomes of TV shows for sure!

[Wanderer]

Hi @Symph! I've also struggled with this, at times, and I know what you mean about wanting to use the cards for something more 'real' than fiction; somehow it makes me feel uncomfortable!

 

So, one approach is to communicate with the cards about the cards. Ask the deck to help you to understand it better, then draw a card. This is the one you'll now focus on... so decide what you want to know about it. You already know the basic meaning, but what else is there to consider? For example, if you draw a court card, then you could follow it with a suit card (a 'situation') and ask how the court would deal with that scenario... then draw three more for the answer. This way you're learning not just about one card, but about the meanings that they hold in relation to each other. 

 

Another one is to look at current events, predicting how emerging situations are going to play out. It's very easy to focus on the crises for this one, but try to avoid just looking at negative scenarios. Keep a journal of your results, and check back as the reality comes to pass, then see where your interpretations differed from reality. And where they were correct, of course. 

 

Finally, the cards themselves are not just a divination tool. They contain wisdom in their very nature, as they are designed, in total, to encapsulate the sum of human experience. One very effective way to start to live the deck is to draw a 'card of the day' and consider its meaning. Look for situations through the day that embody the meaning, and try to reach beyond the specifics of the image to understand the essence of the card. You might not be able to put it into words, but you will start to recognise the feel of a situation, and be able to apply experiences to the deck (and vice versa) more easily over time. Being more familiar with the struggles that we go through during the story of the Fool's Journey, makes us more empathetic towards others' choices (for good or ill), and helps us to understand why we do the things we do.

 

Hope some of those appeal! 

[Lady Butterfly]

1 hour ago, Symph said:

@Lady Butterfly what if I take a show that I really like, right now I'm watching "StarGate Atlantis" and it's full of cliff hangers and "what's gonna happen" moments, what if I start using the Tarot to try and predict with greater and greater detail the outcomes of the shows?  Anyone ever tried this?  Seems like a valid way to actually test the accuracy of my intuition afterward.  

 

Yeah for sure, that was one of the things I had in mind.

As a side, I enjoyed SG:Atlantis, but my favourite in the franchise is SG:Universe. If you haven't watched it yet, give it a try after Atlantis. Many people thought it was terrible, but I felt it was one of the best in the franchise.

[gregory]

2 hours ago, Symph said:

Alright I like this idea!   I'm also curious about "getting to know myself" through my cards or like, doing shadow work through them, but I will start with predicting the outcomes of TV shows for sure!

You can get to know your cards in so many ways. I am not suggesting you buy another book, but Lynda Cowles' book, The Tarot Playbook, has some exercises that really have that effect. Like "which card would you invite to dinner ?"; "Which card would you wrap up as a gift for your sister ?"

 

http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/books/playbook/

 

You don't have to be deeply earnest at all times, you know. When you want to get to know a person, you don't have to ask their complete medical and psychiatric history in the first few weeks. If you need to know, that, it will come at the right time. Same thing with cards.

[Endy]

9 hours ago, Lady Butterfly said:

There was a thread a while ago about practice reading. I recall one of the suggestions was to read on fictional characters/events. What does the future hold for your favourite TV hero? Where might the story do for you favourite book series? What would it take for your favourite movie hero to settle down into a life of suburban bliss? etc.

I might have read this thread or another one that is similar, but another thing that I have seen mentioned in this forum is to practice with tarot by saying "tell me a story" and then draw some cards. A lot of times I just do a simple past-present-future 3-card draw. But it's a really fun way to practice for me. The daily draw is nice, but what I personally love the most about tarot is how the cards connect. A card could mean one thing, but in sequence with a few other cards the meaning could evolve quite a bit. So the "tell me a story" is definitely my favorite way to practice, especially because I find there are only so many real-life questions I can personally use tarot for 🙂

 

9 hours ago, Symph said:

I like the fictional characters idea.  I think part of my issue with all this is that I've been told that to practice I should just make fictitious practice spreads and then think of all the possible meanings etc, and the idea just bores me.  I wanna do something REAL with my decks, I wanna do something that requires me to start trying to tap into my intuition cause that shit is real.  I'll just go ahead and say that I've been to jail before, and the first time I went?  The day before I was arrested, I just knew I was going to be, and I woke my mother up from her sleep and told her "hey, tomorrow I'm going to be arrested but I have been told it's going to be ok so don't freak out" and the next day I was.  (Not because of anything terrible I did it was this complicated misunderstanding) 

       My point is just... I don't wanna just "play" with my cards, I wanna play with my intuition!  The fictional characters is a step in the right direction but just.. how can I practice on something a little more real...

I understand what you are saying. However as with anything, practice is really important. If you want to play a musical instrument in a symphony, you don't just jump to the symphony. You practice a lot of repetitive keys and drills before you actually get to the whole song. You develop your skill with the tool that you will use in the symphony. While I understand you aren't training for some tarot competition or finale or anything, tarot is a tool that you will use to tap into your intuition so it makes sense to me that you would want to perfect your skill with such a tool. So perhaps a different way of thinking about approaching using tarot with fictional scenarios is that you are just doing drills and building up muscle memory. But, of course, not everyone is going to like using tarot in fictional situations... I just wanted to mention this alternative perspective 🙂 One way or the other, I hope you find a good practice technique that works for you!

[Symph]

Oh man... so much good stuff you guys have already mentioned, but I wanna tell you what just happened I'm so excited.  So basically, couldn't go back to sleep like I'd hoped, so I decided to go ahead and give this predicting Television thing a shot,  in case anyone watches the show I'm gonna do the spoiler thing as to not ruin this aspect of the show for ya.  

Spoiler

So in this episode there was a wraith, or bad alien creature thing that had fed upon the main character john shepard draining almost all his life force.  However it was not because they were fighting, they had an alliance trying to escape from the same prison, and the wraith only did it to give himself the power to defeat some enemies coming to kill them both.  Up until this point in the show they had shown no evidence that this process could be undone, but as with any good sci-fi show there is a brilliant medic who is always finding ways to pull off the impossible.  I paused the show and thought "ok so how will John get his life force back, probably the medic will figure something out, but let's ask the cards".  Pulled out my Bowie deck, shuffled until I felt that small tingling sensation, and pulled The Lovers card.  Immediately the first thought that popped into my head was "The Wraith will give his life back to him", now first off, the wraith are really nasty in this show, downright animal like, they only had an alliance out of sheer necessity, so that made the idea seem a bit preposterous, and on top of that, the show had never mentioned that a wraith even COULD do this so that also made me doubt this initial thought.  

               I began to think harder and pulled another card, it was the 8 of swords and in the bowie deck it's a picture of a man in a coffin.  I thought "ohhh I bet it's not what I thought, the medic will probably figure something out and then he'll be in a coma for a while, the lovers card was just saying his friends will help".  Unpaused the show and wouldn't you know it, it was my FIRST intuition, the wraith did indeed give him back his life force, there was no coma or anything.   

Ok the rest I can say in the open without spoiling anything.  But basically, I almost always get one of those subtle initial impressions when I pull cards, but many times during readings, especially ones from this forum I would question and go with something else but always wondered if the initial feeling is the one that should be trusted.  So this is already showing me that yes, that subtle little image or thought that pops up first may always be the thing to trust.  I'm excited to keep doing this it's fun being able to see the result so quickly!

2 hours ago, Wanderer said:

Hi @Symph! I've also struggled with this, at times, and I know what you mean about wanting to use the cards for something more 'real' than fiction; somehow it makes me feel uncomfortable!

 

So, one approach is to communicate with the cards about the cards. Ask the deck to help you to understand it better, then draw a card. This is the one you'll now focus on... so decide what you want to know about it. You already know the basic meaning, but what else is there to consider? For example, if you draw a court card, then you could follow it with a suit card (a 'situation') and ask how the court would deal with that scenario... then draw three more for the answer. This way you're learning not just about one card, but about the meanings that they hold in relation to each other. 

 

Another one is to look at current events, predicting how emerging situations are going to play out. It's very easy to focus on the crises for this one, but try to avoid just looking at negative scenarios. Keep a journal of your results, and check back as the reality comes to pass, then see where your interpretations differed from reality. And where they were correct, of course. 

 

Finally, the cards themselves are not just a divination tool. They contain wisdom in their very nature, as they are designed, in total, to encapsulate the sum of human experience. One very effective way to start to live the deck is to draw a 'card of the day' and consider its meaning. Look for situations through the day that embody the meaning, and try to reach beyond the specifics of the image to understand the essence of the card. You might not be able to put it into words, but you will start to recognise the feel of a situation, and be able to apply experiences to the deck (and vice versa) more easily over time. Being more familiar with the struggles that we go through during the story of the Fool's Journey, makes us more empathetic towards others' choices (for good or ill), and helps us to understand why we do the things we do.

 

Hope some of those appeal! 

I'd heard the "daily pull" suggestion before but didn't feel very interested because I dunno.. maybe I didn't expect it to work?  I think also I had no job at the time so I really didn't do much and I thought "my days have the same theme every day, I just make food, try to work on songs, read things, what could the cards possibly tell me?"  But now I feel silly for thinking that way, I like how you described it it definitely makes me want to try this.  Current events is also a really cool idea I hadn't even thought of, I hate depressing news so I'll have to find some less upsetting events to look at but I'm sure I can come up with something.  I also tried the "ask the deck about itself" a while back and felt like I got nothing of value back, but that was in that time period when I was doubting everything and not trusting the cards etc, it was right before I disappeared on you guys for a few weeks so I'm gonna guess my attitude just wasn't in the right place for it.  I'll give it a try again.  

2 hours ago, Lady Butterfly said:

 

Yeah for sure, that was one of the things I had in mind.

As a side, I enjoyed SG:Atlantis, but my favourite in the franchise is SG:Universe. If you haven't watched it yet, give it a try after Atlantis. Many people thought it was terrible, but I felt it was one of the best in the franchise.

 

25 minutes ago, gregory said:

You can get to know your cards in so many ways. I am not suggesting you buy another book, but Lynda Cowles' book, The Tarot Playbook, has some exercises that really have that effect. Like "which card would you invite to dinner ?"; "Which card would you wrap up as a gift for your sister ?"

 

http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/books/playbook/

 

You don't have to be deeply earnest at all times, you know. When you want to get to know a person, you don't have to ask their complete medical and psychiatric history in the first few weeks. If you need to know, that, it will come at the right time. Same thing with cards.

Hahaha I like that idea!  These sound like fun ways to make card reading seem less serious.  

20 minutes ago, Endy said:

I might have read this thread or another one that is similar, but another thing that I have seen mentioned in this forum is to practice with tarot by saying "tell me a story" and then draw some cards. A lot of times I just do a simple past-present-future 3-card draw. But it's a really fun way to practice for me. The daily draw is nice, but what I personally love the most about tarot is how the cards connect. A card could mean one thing, but in sequence with a few other cards the meaning could evolve quite a bit. So the "tell me a story" is definitely my favorite way to practice, especially because I find there are only so many real-life questions I can personally use tarot for 🙂

 

I understand what you are saying. However as with anything, practice is really important. If you want to play a musical instrument in a symphony, you don't just jump to the symphony. You practice a lot of repetitive keys and drills before you actually get to the whole song. You develop your skill with the tool that you will use in the symphony. While I understand you aren't training for some tarot competition or finale or anything, tarot is a tool that you will use to tap into your intuition so it makes sense to me that you would want to perfect your skill with such a tool. So perhaps a different way of thinking about approaching using tarot with fictional scenarios is that you are just doing drills and building up muscle memory. But, of course, not everyone is going to like using tarot in fictional situations... I just wanted to mention this alternative perspective 🙂 One way or the other, I hope you find a good practice technique that works for you!

You make really good points, and also remind me that I should be playing my guitar more lol I tend to only pick it up when I have a song to record but I should be doing those "drills" as you say.  Will try the "tell me story" thing for sure.  

 

Thanks for all the replies guys!  

[Symph]

Oopse! @Lady Butterfly somehow I quoted you but forgot to respond, I was basically gonna just say that finding out there are other Stargate series is great to know, I have trouble finding shows I can really get into but I'm in season 3 of atlantis and I think it's quite enthralling.  The way you talk about Universe makes me think of how I felt about Star Trek Enterprise.  It's kind of a strange departure from the usual feel and format of Star Trek, but I still loved it.  

[Lady Butterfly]

1 hour ago, Symph said:

The way you talk about Universe makes me think of how I felt about Star Trek Enterprise.  It's kind of a strange departure from the usual feel and format of Star Trek, but I still loved it.  

 

I LOVE Enterprise! Archer is one of my favourite Captains!

[Guest]

 

Ultimately, you need to read Symph. As much as you can.  Some organisations, such as the Tarot Association, et cetera, offer programmes where querents can ask questions and get a free reading.  These are ideal because you get both a mentor and also feedback from real seekers.  

 

I know that a lot of people like the book and TV thing.  I'm not so keen.  I would encourage you trying exchanges, offering readings to friends, and perhaps sticking to one deck for a time that is in regular use.  I did that when I decided I wanted to restart with the grand etteilla (and when I was doing Chris Brennan's astrology course). 

 

During a reading, you are reading a reflection of the seeker and their world.  Consequently, that requires becoming acquainted with the cards' essence or voice.  So, one deck and some readings for yourself and lots for others are a must.   

[Symph]

9 minutes ago, leroidetrèfle said:

 

Ultimately, you need to read Symph. As much as you can.  Some organisations, such as the Tarot Association, et cetera, offer programmes where querents can ask questions and get a free reading.  These are ideal because you get both a mentor and also feedback from real seekers.  

 

I know that a lot of people like the book and TV thing.  I'm not so keen.  I would encourage you trying exchanges, offering readings to friends, and perhaps sticking to one deck for a time that is in regular use.  I did that when I decided I wanted to restart with the grand etteilla (and when I was doing Chris Brennan's astrology course). 

 

During a reading, you are reading a reflection of the seeker and their world.  Consequently, that requires becoming acquainted with the cards' essence or voice.  So, one deck and some readings for yourself and lots for others are a must.   

I do get what you're saying, but when I was doing readings before on the forum I just felt so much pressure, and so weird when my readings weren't accurate and just... I dunno I wanted to feel confident first and then do readings, but at the same time that's kind of the story of my life.  I always wait to feel comfortable before I do anything and thus lots of things just get left undone so.... you may be right but I can still promise you I won't be offering any readings to anyone until I at least feel settled in at my job.  I actually almost left card reading behind completely when I was at the height of my anxieties about it, but in a sense it almost feels like it wouldn't let me go, and not in a bad way but just in a... I'm meant to do this way.  

I'll definitely take your advice as soon as I can but that's just not RIGHT now, maybe very soon though, in the meantime I just need a way to have those decks in my hands and be using them on the daily, and all these suggestions are perfect for that. 

[DanielJUK]

I'm a bit of a global political junkie and also like watching some sports, and so I do readings which look at how things will turn out (predictive), this actually gives me some peace but also is fascinating. When you get a score right for a team it's really amazing! So read on the things you like in the style you like, we all enjoy different things.

 

I do think taking a daily card for myself really formed my basis of understanding the cards. You don't have to do it predictive, you can take a card at the end of the day or the next day for the previous day to review it. I have read a lot of different author's interpretations but applying a card to my day really helped me work out my own view of each card and has been so beneficial later in my readings. By doing a daily card (both to see what happened or to review what happened) you are relating it to something that you can quantify in real life. However I know it's not for everyone but just using them in anyway that suits you makes you improve! 🙂

[Guest]

 

That’s understandable, Symph.  It’s also common – you’re not alone.  You don’t want to put yourself in such a position where anxiety gets the better (and it happens to us all!).

 

Have you thought about mentoring?  Where it’s just you and a reader? 

If that’s not an option, then try narratives.  Put the cards down and arrange them as if they were storyboards.  Tell your story, or someone else.  Pick a card and perhaps try and find a song, memory or character that embodies the card. 

Just take it slow and do whatever feels right.

[Flaxen]

55 minutes ago, Symph said:

I do get what you're saying, but when I was doing readings before on the forum I just felt so much pressure, and so weird when my readings weren't accurate and just... I dunno I wanted to feel confident first and then do readings, but at the same time that's kind of the story of my life.  I always wait to feel comfortable before I do anything and thus lots of things just get left undone so.... you may be right but I can still promise you I won't be offering any readings to anyone until I at least feel settled in at my job.

I could have written this when I was new to tarot. I think it’s really common to feel this anxiety and pressure to get it ‘right’ - no-one wants to give a bad reading. With me, it was tied in to a general lack of confidence and worry about being perceived as ‘not good enough’ by others. It stung when I gave a bad reading. 
The only thing which helped was just to plough on and keep trying. This is a supportive forum and I hope you’ll let us help you develop further as a reader. 

[gregory]

1 hour ago, Symph said:

I do get what you're saying, but when I was doing readings before on the forum I just felt so much pressure, and so weird when my readings weren't accurate and just... I dunno I wanted to feel confident first and then do readings, but at the same time that's kind of the story of my life. 

How will you get confident about reading if you aren't doing readings ?

 

Just relax, join in exchanges and let the chips fall wherever they want. We all have readings that fall completely flat....

[Symph]

21 minutes ago, DanielJUK said:

I'm a bit of a global political junkie and also like watching some sports, and so I do readings which look at how things will turn out (predictive), this actually gives me some peace but also is fascinating. When you get a score right for a team it's really amazing! So read on the things you like in the style you like, we all enjoy different things.

 

I do think taking a daily card for myself really formed my basis of understanding the cards. You don't have to do it predictive, you can take a card at the end of the day or the next day for the previous day to review it. I have read a lot of different author's interpretations but applying a card to my day really helped me work out my own view of each card and has been so beneficial later in my readings. By doing a daily card (both to see what happened or to review what happened) you are relating it to something that you can quantify in real life. However I know it's not for everyone but just using them in anyway that suits you makes you improve! 🙂

I actually already took that advice and I'm seeing it be true, unfortunately it's been a bit negative but still accurate haha  I can see how having an entire day reinforce the theme of a card helps you "know" that card much better.  And how do you get specific numbers from a Tarot reading?  I didn't think that was even possible.  

 

41 minutes ago, leroidetrèfle said:

 

 

That’s understandable, Symph.  It’s also common – you’re not alone.  You don’t want to put yourself in such a position where anxiety gets the better (and it happens to us all!).

 

 

 

Have you thought about mentoring?  Where it’s just you and a reader? 

 

If that’s not an option, then try narratives.  Put the cards down and arrange them as if they were storyboards.  Tell your story, or someone else.  Pick a card and perhaps try and find a song, memory or character that embodies the card. 

 

Just take it slow and do whatever feels right.

Yeah it will pass, I'm just so thankful I didn't leave the forum or Tarot itself, I really do love it I just had some issues to work out.  I am in the mentorship program if that's what you mean and I love my lessons, we're not doing readings yet though, we're working on some more foundational things and that's what I want to be doing anyway.  I like the idea of narratives, just like I said, I'm a little more interested in something quantifiable, as Daniel said so that I can actually test my intution and learn what is on and what is not.  Thanks for all the tips!

[Symph]

7 hours ago, Flaxen said:

I could have written this when I was new to tarot. I think it’s really common to feel this anxiety and pressure to get it ‘right’ - no-one wants to give a bad reading. With me, it was tied in to a general lack of confidence and worry about being perceived as ‘not good enough’ by others. It stung when I gave a bad reading. 
The only thing which helped was just to plough on and keep trying. This is a supportive forum and I hope you’ll let us help you develop further as a reader. 

Oh I definitely know how supportive you all are for sure, and I absolutely intend to get involved with the exchanges again, but there's a lot I still can learn on my own, I don't have a firm grasp on the majors, and I have a lot I can study and do in the meantime, and I just do kind of need to go at my own pace.  But not only that, even if I was reading I'd STILL want pointers on how to study the cards by myself and do inner work with them.  It does make me feel better to know that you have felt that way too though.  

7 hours ago, gregory said:

How will you get confident about reading if you aren't doing readings ?

 

Just relax, join in exchanges and let the chips fall wherever they want. We all have readings that fall completely flat....

True, but like I said to @Flaxen, whether I'm doing readings or not I still want to be able to not just practice but kind of... use the cards for self exploration and honing my intuition on my own as well anyway.  And it's not like I'm saying I intend to stay away from the exchanges very long but right now with having gone from no job to 40 hours a week, plus working on my album, I'm just not ready to commit to that.  I'm sure I'll be back at it within a month or so though, in the meantime I just need ways to play with my cards in my downtime.  Once again though, it's nice to hear that everybody has dud readings sometimes, it can feel so embarrassing to go out on a limb and create this whole backstory you believe is going on only to find out "nope nope, that's not my situation at all" lollll  guess that's just part of learning, I will keep that in mind when I do come back to the exchanges, just give me a few weeks and you'll see me in there 🙂

[bastetly]

17 hours ago, Symph said:

plus working on my album

you're working on an album?  💅

[Symph]

Yes I am!  I used to upload to a youtube channel and had a pretty decent sized following but I became too nervous and had some things happen that caused me to abandon it, I was never happy with how the mix of instruments sounded, so now I am learning to mix, and hoping to have an album I can pitch to radio stations done by the end of the year.  Had a reading done on it just a couple weeks back it was really helpful.  Here's a thread I just put out where I will be sharing old music of mine 🙂

 

[bastetly]

Gee thanks!  And rock ON  🙂