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5 hours ago, Troll said:

I play darts few hours each day ,because I want to become better

 

@Troll - here's questions for you to ask the Tarot:

 

"What 3 things can I do to improve my dart skills?"

"What is my soul's lesson for this life?"

"What does Elvis say about his diet when he was alive?"

"Who will win the soccer cup / Formula 1/world darts competition? Please Describe the winner by their birthday card (as per the decan wheel)"

 

That's some question examples for you to practise with. I'd be interested to know if Elvis would eat the same 🙂

 

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Scandinavianhermit
Posted
15 hours ago, Troll said:

22) I don`t use my cards often because I don`t have questions to ask . It would be ok ,but how to learn a skill if you don`t practice it. For example I play darts few hours each day ,because I want to become better ,but I can`t do the same with Tarot ,because I don`t have any questions to ask them

Have you tried: "What do I need to be prepared for this day?"

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15 hours ago, JoyousGirl said:

 

@Troll - here's questions for you to ask the Tarot:

 

"What 3 things can I do to improve my dart skills?"

"What is my soul's lesson for this life?"

"What does Elvis say about his diet when he was alive?"

"Who will win the soccer cup / Formula 1/world darts competition? Please Describe the winner by their birthday card (as per the decan wheel)"

 

That's some question examples for you to practise with. I'd be interested to know if Elvis would eat the same 🙂

Can Tarot answer these questions? I love it because it is about helping me understand the way I feel and think about the topics and why I do think and feel the way I do . And now writing it all down I understand that after modification any question can become  secular one and help me talk to my inner self . Thank you big time  

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4 hours ago, Scandinavianhermit said:

Have you tried: "What do I need to be prepared for this day?"

Thank you a lot this is a good one 

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23) What are your opinions on reading for ChatGPT as training ?

Natural Mystic Guide
Posted
10 hours ago, Troll said:

What are your opinions on reading for ChatGPT as training ?

My opinion is that it is far preferable to practice reading with real live people.  People love to get readings, even when they know that you are just learning.  Interactivity and feedback are a big part of the tarot reading experience.  There is an element of 'soul' that AI can never express.  It is connecting with this element of soul that makes you a good Tarot card reader.

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I totally agree with @Natural Mystic Guide's concerns regarding ChatGPT, but what I have always found helpful is reading for fictional characters. (It worked even better with Lenormand). Good fictive characters have a life of their own, they have development, and their creator has invested a part of their soul in them, so you can explore their motivations and the cause-effect-results of their decisions. 

 

You can also check the accuracy of your readings. "What will happen to Anna Karenina, her husband, her lover and her son if she leaves her marriage?" 

 

It's also possible to read for historical figures. 

 

My life is pretty settled and I don't have a lot of questions about myself, but I like doing readings for characters from the books I read. I have also had great insights from ancestor readings. I gained a new understanding of my grandfather for example who died before I was born. 

 

All these options are imho better than using AI. Tarot is a human interaction. 

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7 minutes ago, Nemia said:

I totally agree with @Natural Mystic Guide's concerns regarding ChatGPT, but what I have always found helpful is reading for fictional characters. (It worked even better with Lenormand). Good fictive characters have a life of their own, they have development, and their creator has invested a part of their soul in them, so you can explore their motivations and the cause-effect-results of their decisions. 

 

You can also check the accuracy of your readings. "What will happen to Anna Karenina, her husband, her lover and her son if she leaves her marriage?" 

 

It's also possible to read for historical figures. 

 

My life is pretty settled and I don't have a lot of questions about myself, but I like doing readings for characters from the books I read. I have also had great insights from ancestor readings. I gained a new understanding of my grandfather for example who died before I was born. 

 

All these options are imho better than using AI. Tarot is a human interaction. 

I understand your point of view and agree completely .But what about reading to AI who impersonates Vronsky ? 

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10 hours ago, Natural Mystic Guide said:

My opinion is that it is far preferable to practice reading with real live people.  People love to get readings, even when they know that you are just learning.  Interactivity and feedback are a big part of the tarot reading experience.  There is an element of 'soul' that AI can never express.  It is connecting with this element of soul that makes you a good Tarot card reader.

I get that my biggest mistake in darts ,was I didn`t get out to play when I started .But unfortunately my health is at very bad place .So my plan is to read few months to A.I and then read free here to live persons . My issue with reading to live people is that I am Pitsci  apologist  and I can`t give people magical ,esoteric side of Tarot they are expecting .Guys on here will be ok with this approach to Tarot ,but I don`t believe that it will be the same with general public outside our great forum 

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3 hours ago, Troll said:

I understand your point of view and agree completely .But what about reading to AI who impersonates Vronsky ? 

 

Go ahead and try it! 😄 

DanielJUK
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I saw a musical artist write recently that artists and creatives who use A.I are not creatives but technicians and I'm still thinking about that concept. Perhaps people using it are not a diviner but a technician.

Posted
3 hours ago, DanielJUK said:

I saw a musical artist write recently that artists and creatives who use A.I are not creatives but technicians and I'm still thinking about that concept. Perhaps people using it are not a diviner but a technician.

I understand you completely I would never use AI for reading to real people ,because they have come to me for a reading not A.I .But that means I need to know all cards and meanings and how the Tarot works . I maybe am wrong ,but even in free Tarot readings (If I will ever be ready )I want to give me absolute best and that means hundreds and hundreds readings to A.I First 

JoyousGirl
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19 hours ago, Troll said:

I maybe am wrong ,but even in free Tarot readings (If I will ever be ready )I want to give me absolute best and that means hundreds and hundreds readings to A.I First 

 

You need nuance, and feedback from humans having experiences. AI won't give you that because it doesn't do or experience various things or places (minor arcana) or have people around it doing or experiencing things in the work/service or relationship realm (Court Cards), or have a spirit or karmic/dharmic lesson, sense or purpose etc within the collective unconscious (Major Arcana). If you're going to practice, use the monthly Newbies readings on this site.    

DanielJUK
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I recommend practising with fiction, TV / film/ book/ computer games/ whatever medium. Read on the characters and see how it turns out at the end. It's such a good way of practising, like who committed the murder? or reading on each character at the start. I practice predictive readings with sports major events. You don't have to do predictive readings but you can read on fictional scenarios and then follow how they turn out.

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17 hours ago, JoyousGirl said:

 

You need nuance, and feedback from humans having experiences. AI won't give you that because it doesn't do or experience various things or places (minor arcana) or have people around it doing or experiencing things in the work/service or relationship realm (Court Cards), or have a spirit or karmic/dharmic lesson, sense or purpose etc within the collective unconscious (Major Arcana). If you're going to practice, use the monthly Newbies readings on this site.    

You are absolutely right if I want to help people .I need to build real reading experience and you can do it only by reading to real people ,and starting doing that faster will only help me and my reading . My biggest fear besides being bad reader ,is that people are waiting for miracle ,esoteric reading with magic .My approach to Tarot excludes all of that ,it is just common sense logic and desire to help person t find answers of their own ,no magic or mystery . I feel that if I am not good this approach won`t be helpful to people but damaging to them

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14 hours ago, DanielJUK said:

I recommend practising with fiction, TV / film/ book/ computer games/ whatever medium. Read on the characters and see how it turns out at the end. It's such a good way of practising, like who committed the murder? or reading on each character at the start. I practice predictive readings with sports major events. You don't have to do predictive readings but you can read on fictional scenarios and then follow how they turn out.

Yes this is a good advice ,someone gave it already ,and I think if A.I will impersonate that character or situation it will be more beneficial because will include some sort of feedback 

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Learning tarot is growing on me it` fantastic and it is really fun ,but I feel that I need more information to build my system of Tarot .I want to learn my biggest issue I have looked everything I can about secular Tarot and I can`t find more information .You are  super friendly even more then dart players ,you are all light years in front of me in the craft an are helping me a lot ,but I feel I need a secular teacher 

JoyousGirl
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On 2/26/2026 at 6:44 AM, Troll said:

I feel I need a secular teacher 

 

@Troll You are your own teacher in this case.  For example, you pull 3 cards at the beginning of each day and you work out and journal what happened at the end of the day and how those cards described that in a secular way. There are authors who talk about the archetypes and psychology of the cards. So direct your reading to those sources. Or look at the aspects of life you want Tarot to deal with and get the books about those topics, then apply Tarot to the subject matter of the books.

 

You will need to identify what you are seeking to learn from various Tarot authors.  We can read 100 books and take one thing from each book.  Learning to read Tarot never ends.   

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2 hours ago, JoyousGirl said:

 

@Troll You are your own teacher in this case.  For example, you pull 3 cards at the beginning of each day and you work out and journal what happened at the end of the day and how those cards described that in a secular way. There are authors who talk about the archetypes and psychology of the cards. So direct your reading to those sources. Or look at the aspects of life you want Tarot to deal with and get the books about those topics, then apply Tarot to the subject matter of the books.

 

You will need to identify what you are seeking to learn from various Tarot authors.  We can read 100 books and take one thing from each book.  Learning to read Tarot never ends.   

It `s like with darts ,but on more spiritual level .Thank you this really helped  

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