Christianity and Divination
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There are topics like that... I will write a little on it, can't post there as we can't edit our posts in the forum and I assume I will delete this one later on, as it is very controversial topics, so why go there too much... But could be good idea to cover a little of my view to it here.
If we view the new testament there is very little mention of devils, satan or anything like that, I think it was few dozen in the whole thing and most of them are very unclear, as to what is being addressed.
All this description of Hell, Satan, all of it, none of this is from either parts of the Bible. Where it comes from is long to go into, however, and easy to check in sources about that.
But there was a vast framework that was added to the story there, later on.
Not to mention that they are clearly written long after the events, the gospels that is... Since Roman Empire was not very friendly to Christians back then, its fair to assume it was passed in secret for a long time until recorded... So having some doubt on the clarity of the text is a good idea, as the sources are not very clear. Even today there isn't a single page of the original texts and even today we still aren't sure on what language the gospels were written, as far as I'm aware. Although people interested in the esoteric part of it, would have good reason to guess its Aramaic, but that is another story.
If we look the main message of Jesus in the texts, however, its for non judgment, acceptance and loving unconditionally. That I don't see contradicting with Tarot or most other system out there.
His disciples, didn't seem so clear, but looking at his view to them, listening to them too much seems unwise. He wouldn't, why would we do so...
If we dig more into it... Jesus came as part of a specific religion back then, we call Judaism, so much so that he was initiated in it. His main message seems to be for people part of that. Some view that his idea was to play a role they were expecting there for a long time and still do today, actually. That is also important to keep in mind, as with all remedies, some of them are tailored to specific problem, aren't that easy to use for any problem one could have...
And today Christians view that the old testament is part of Christianity, yet haven't spend much effort to actually learn what it is.
As if we read Kabbalists, people that are on the inner part of Judaism, the Torah(most of the old testament is called that) is actually showing us Sephirot by Sephirot how it all works.
Some Sephirot are nice to work to, some may need some getting used to... Taking the text from random Sephira, not with the idea to understand, but with the idea to use random sentences as commandments on how to live ones life... That is never going to work, as few pages later when it gets to the opposite Sephira it will write the opposite view.
Yet most Christians that step on the idea of devil, hell etc. as they can't really find source for that in the new testament, in a very convincing way, usually look at the old one. And in there the God seems meaner, that isn't the case, however, its just not made to be taken as recommendation for every carefully selected sentence of it, its just showing how it all works, step by step each Patriarch showing one sephira. And some steps are difficult and challenging... Some are easy.
All this are very long and messy topics, though, but considering that the problem becomes lack of interest. Jesus was part of Judaism, in his own view, very clearly. It was something that even later on he still initiated in(as given clearly in the story with John the Baptist).
So understanding the old testament requires one to understand Judaism. Understanding Judaism requires one to understand the Kabbalah.
None of that is required for Christianity, only Jesus message seems to be. Non judgement, unconditional love etc. But since good parts of the Christians can't really cover that one and instead put a lot of effort to find base to judge as much as they can others on, the lack of base to do that from could be challenging... But why conform to that, that isn't Christianity, isn't Judaism, either, its some confusing mess people did, as they couldn't do the "unconditional love" part they were only suppose to focus on.
So in my humble view, if one wants to be a good christian, trying to sense what Jesus pointed to is a great start. Trying to judge less, to accept more, to see the good even in our enemies, share with people when they need it and we may not etc. That seem to be the main message.
Digging into the old testament, ignoring that this is Kabbalistic material and taking sentences out of their context(description of Sephirot) to use as a base to judge others on, is so far from what Christianity was suppose to be, in my humble view, that anyone that decided to align their practices with that mess, will have difficult time. But aligning it with the pure message in the new testament is very easy, as there is nothing there that contradicts Divination or most other stuff, people aim in the name of "Christianity" at.
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