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I feel like I understand most tarot cards. I guess the confusing ones that I stop by is always cards like the world & judgment, although I've been working with judgment A LOT. so I would say i'm pretty GOOD at understanding card meanings and what it could mean by just the representation and imagery. I currently even use the tarot deck Wild Unknown, which was my first deck, purchased about 9 months ago. I also bought the OG deck later on but I just didn't want to play around with it tbh. I just love my first deck! but I've also seen the OG one and will think of that one if I ever need more detail :3 

 

But yeah... the connection, it's hard. I can't understand it most times. Maybe it's because I still lack self-confidence to just PICK a definition to it. But I always just feel like I don't know enough... and sometimes the segment just straight up makes no sense. EX: getting 3 court cards. I hate it when that happens )': ! 

Is there any book or site that can teach me about this ? or any of your recommendations really?

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@Anastasia I often feel the same way. I feel like I need to walk away from the spread and let it sink in and then I'm able to come up with something. I've come to this forum hoping to practise more and get insight into how to create a better connection. I'm sure with more practise we will get stronger and more confident in our readings.

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Perhaps you could try a simple 'backwards' reading with just a few cards. Pull a few cards in the morning, then in the evening, look back and see how they applied to your day. Jot down some notes about your thoughts. 🌻

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Sometimes we struggle to relate cards because we have a fixed idea of what a card means. If we cannot identify that meaning in the narrative of our life it throws us and we scramble around for different meanings. When this occurs we need to step back and try a foster an objectivity.
 

Strange as it may seem that can be done by reading in the third person. Other times, we walk away and come back later. 

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@MKPYes, I believe in us!! I'm glad to hear i'm not the only one with this problem. I'll try to step away and be more patient with my readings- not just put it back once I didn't understand or I think I understood lol

@BodhiseedOh, that sounds like dedication, i'll try it ! thank you 🙂

@timtoldrumThat makes a lot of sense. I just realized that most times that it works I start talking in third person- I even remember, sometimes I could guess what the cards at top of the deck were. A strange plus to this but yeah, it does completely throw me off if I don't look at it objectively- and I only realize that it has to do with my life moments later, like a few hours, a few days, and well I don't think my memory can go any further than that lol. I need to do this more often- thank you so much!

 

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4 hours ago, Bodhiseed said:

Perhaps you could try a simple 'backwards' reading with just a few cards. Pull a few cards in the morning, then in the evening, look back and see how they applied to your day. Jot down some notes about your thoughts. 🌻

 

OR - read in the evening about the day you just had - see how you can see the connections there ?

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@gregory yeah that sounds simpler to do, but I'll try both to see if there are any differences B) thanks!

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21 hours ago, Anastasia said:

But yeah... the connection, it's hard. I can't understand it most times. Maybe it's because I still lack self-confidence to just PICK a definition to it. But I always just feel like I don't know enough... and sometimes the segment just straight up makes no sense. EX: getting 3 court cards. I hate it when that happens )': ! 

Is there any book or site that can teach me about this ? or any of your recommendations really?

With the courts, try to identify people who might be involved in the situation you're reading about. Are they looking at each other (in communication, friends, etc.) or do they turn their backs on each other? What do they have in their hands? Knights are on a mission of some kind and often bring news. Which way are they riding and what card do they face?
(I don't know how doable that is with the Wild Unknown, you might have to adapt some things.)

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I'm with @timtoldrum on this... I suspect it's all about the meanings. Learning a list of fixed meanings for each card is the first stage, but is actually a bit of a blunt instrument; the key to fluent reading is going past the individual words to feel the more abstract concept that connects them. At that point, those learned meanings become *examples* of something that can't easily be put into words, but which you recognise on an intuitive level. It's a question of learning to trust your subconscious over your learned knowledge. If you sometimes get meanings that you're reluctant to go with because they aren't 'on the list' popping into your head, that's probably what's happening! :wink:

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@katrinka It does the same exact thing with this deck, they're always looking right or left for the most part, but i've heard this somewhere else too, I had no idea what this meant. I often see, say if it starts with a younger female and then the next female is older, some kind of evolution or maturity happened or would happen, depending on the question. But when they're looking at each other, for example, a knight of wands looking at a knight of swords, or sometimes they're looking away from each other. Again, it could depend on the third card entirely, but I have a hard time understanding the meanings of them. I guess it could bear a message, but why emphasize it with so many court cards? Same thing with the females. I guess it does go up to identifying these people in the end right?

 

9 hours ago, Wanderer said:

I'm with @timtoldrum on this... I suspect it's all about the meanings. Learning a list of fixed meanings for each card is the first stage, but is actually a bit of a blunt instrument; the key to fluent reading is going past the individual words to feel the more abstract concept that connects them. At that point, those learned meanings become *examples* of something that can't easily be put into words, but which you recognise on an intuitive level. It's a question of learning to trust your subconscious over your learned knowledge. If you sometimes get meanings that you're reluctant to go with because they aren't 'on the list' popping into your head, that's probably what's happening! :wink:

Yup, I agree, No matter how hard I try to trust my intuition I feel like sometimes I keep stepping on my own foot because it's so easy to doubt the information that I'm thinking. Intuition has saved me so many more times than logic ever did to be honest I don't know why I still pick the latter over the one I know is right lol. I just have to keep trying until I get a handle of it. I guess the information is not always "strong", so I disregard it and move on to something I feel is more trustworthy, just in case. 

 

Doubting has helped me learn a lot though, I can give it that. 

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@Anastasia

Do you keep a tarot journal?  Picking one of the cards that is most alien or confusing and leaves you feeling disconnected and writing out why might actually serendipitously help you connect with it better.   For me, Judgement in the RWS deck was a big one.  There were a TON of them in the Thoth deck that made me feel that way.  It sure took me more than nine months of dedicated work to have the right connection with the entire Thoth deck even though some of it was there the first time I held a copy.  

I'm brand new to TT&M so I don't know what study groups are active or not, but if there is one for the Wild Unknown, I would go there.  

If not, a google search for wild unknown tarot study group will probably pull something up.  I think deck-based study groups are an amazing way to talk about your deck card by card and get a feel for how everything fits together.  In my personal experience, things can fit together one way with one deck and very differently for another.  And it all evolves as we get older and learn more about both the tarot and ourselves.  :)

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4 hours ago, Anastasia said:

It does the same exact thing with this deck, they're always looking right or left for the most part, but i've heard this somewhere else too, I had no idea what this meant. I often see, say if it starts with a younger female and then the next female is older, some kind of evolution or maturity happened or would happen, depending on the question.

 

Yes, they can evolve like that. Or they might just be gossiping, lol. Find what fits the context of the question.
 

4 hours ago, Anastasia said:

But when they're looking at each other, for example, a knight of wands looking at a knight of swords, or sometimes they're looking away from each other.

 

Let's look at these:

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The Knight of Cups encounters the Knight of Wands. The Knight of Wands is reining in his horse, restraining him. Any discourse between those two will be civil.
Compare to the bottom two. The first Knight isn't paying attention to anything but his pentacle, and the Knight of Swords is coming at him in full attack mode.

 

4 hours ago, Anastasia said:

Again, it could depend on the third card entirely, but I have a hard time understanding the meanings of them. I guess it could bear a message, but why emphasize it with so many court cards? Same thing with the females. I guess it does go up to identifying these people in the end right?

 

It does. The message could be about the person represented by the Court next to the Knight.

 

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On 9/26/2020 at 5:15 PM, Anastasia said:Oh, that sounds like dedication, i'll try it ! thank you 🙂

@timtoldrumThat makes a lot of sense. I just realized that most times that it works I start talking in third person- I even remember, sometimes I could guess what the cards at top of the deck were. A strange plus to this but yeah, it does completely throw me off if I don't look at it objectively- and I only realize that it has to do with my life moments later, like a few hours, a few days, and well I don't think my memory can go any further than that lol. I need to do this more often- thank you so much!

 


You’re welcome. As @Wandererstates, fluency comes from an understanding of the cards on a more essential level than keywords. I term this as essence and emphasise it and function over any card meanings. If you know a card’s essence and how it functions, you will know what it “means” in the specific reading at that time.

 

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