Judgement (RWS) card meaning in different contexts

[Strength8]

Hello,

What is your own experience with Judgement (RWS) card (no reversals as I am still learning upright) when it comes in different readings?

It could be one card reading also

For example:

1. What will  be the outcome of a certain situation?

2. When will a certain event happen?

3. What do I need to know about communication with certain person in near future?

4. What are their feelings about another person?

5. How do they see you?

6. How do they see a certain situation?

7. What is the next best step for a person to take?

8. Yes and No query

 

I see/read general meanings as resurrection of past (before putting it away), final decision/verdict (no going back), making peace with the past, getting a call (real or spiritual), being honest or truth coming out

 

Any input is appreciated

[November]

Hi Strength, what you say about Judgement is correct, this card can be about these things. 

 

As outcome (1) of a situation it may refer to a final confrontation from which you cannot escape. No going back after this important step. This can make sense for communication with someone too (3) and also for how you see a situation (6). 

 

As for timing (2) I don't know since I'm not good at guessing it with tarots.

 

As for feelings (4) (5) for me it means coming to terms with them, so admitting to yourself how you're feeling. Another interpretation may be you moved on, but it wasn't easy. 

 

As best step to take (7) it may be coming to terms with your past and forgive yourself. 

 

I don't use yes/no questions (8), so I don't really know. 

 

Anyway always remember that the meaning of a card always depends on the context, the question asked, the deck used and the other cards too. 

 

I hope this helps you a bit. 

 

[Strength8]

53 minutes ago, November said:

Hi Strength, what you say about Judgement is correct, this card can be about these things. 

 

As outcome (1) of a situation it may refer to a final confrontation from which you cannot escape. No going back after this important step. This can make sense for communication with someone too (3) and also for how you see a situation (6). 

 

As for timing (2) I don't know since I'm not good at guessing it with tarots.

 

As for feelings (4) (5) for me it means coming to terms with them, so admitting to yourself how you're feeling. Another interpretation may be you moved on, but it wasn't easy. 

 

As best step to take (7) it may be coming to terms with your past and forgive yourself. 

 

I don't use yes/no questions (8), so I don't really know. 

 

Anyway always remember that the meaning of a card always depends on the context, the question asked, the deck used and the other cards too. 

 

I hope this helps you a bit. 

 

Thank you, November!

It does help 🙂 especially what you said in context of 4, 5 and 7 queries

[DanielJUK]

I think Judgement and also Temperance are really tricky cards in the Majors because you really have to understand them.

 

The card image in Judgement / Judgment tends to be Judgement Day. The angel blows the trumpet in RWS cards and the dead rise again towards it. They are absolved of their sins and can now move to Heaven.

 

It's about rebirth, the dead has come alive again! If you have not dealt with something or run away from it, it's coming back into your life! I notice patterns in my own life, things always come back that you thought you had buried and forgotten! You gotta deal with them, let them go!

 

It's about transition and change, you are moving on! But it's different to Death, you are choosing, not being forced this time! There is a conclusion here, a final release. It's nicer than The Tower as well.

 

It's about healing, you are blessed and may get some respite from challenges

 

It's about an awakening or epiphany, a light bulb moment with a sudden realisation

 

The card is the penultimate Major, a cycle is very nearly complete and this is strongly about change and making decisions

I think it's a hard card to read for outcomes, it's not always clear

 

just gonna add to the Q's with no answer....

 

2. When will a certain event happen?

 

The dates are vague with this card. Timing periods and dates in the year. Some people see it as Summer, others September.

It's associated with Pluto (which is a modern-discovered planet and some people don't use in tarot associations) and also the element of Fire. Some people link it to Scorpio which would be around October to November

Timing when something will happen (like in x time) is not clear.

 

8. Yes and No query

 

Again I would say it's not clear, it's not a yes or no really.

 

[Strength8]

On 11/16/2022 at 7:56 PM, DanielJUK said:

things always come back that you thought you had buried and forgotten! You gotta deal with them, let them go!

 

It's about transition and change, you are moving on! But it's different to Death, you are choosing, not being forced this time! There is a conclusion here, a final release. It's nicer than The Tower as well.

This makes sense especially when I am trying to separate card meanings from each other, in my mind.

 

For example, I can never tell the difference between two of wands and three of wands, when it comes to application of them in a reading for myself. However, today I pulled two of wands as a daily card. I didn't think much about it as I had to get to work. There has been an ongoing situation at work amongst management and today there was a big decision made (that impacted all of us and changed many things) which was bitter-sour-sweet but still a step forward in bigger schema of things. Something (an idea and also someone, in a way) had to be left behind for vision to move forward, if that makes sense. For the first time, I felt I understood two of wands card unfolding in front of me.

On 11/16/2022 at 7:56 PM, DanielJUK said:

I think it's a hard card to read for outcomes, it's not always clear

I would be interesting to note down how it pans out, if it shows up in an outcome (I only read for myself, for learning purposes)

On 11/16/2022 at 7:56 PM, DanielJUK said:

The dates are vague with this card.

Time-frames seem way too hard to learn

 

Thank you for your detailed input @DanielJUK! It helped me learn and motivated me to learn more

[Raggydoll]

In the way I view Judgment and timing, I would say that the answer would be "Soon!". It is a fire card and its a time of abrupt reckoning, like a surprise inspection where no one has had the time to get their sh*t together (or even put their clothes on 😁) Its the "come as you are" card ☺️

 

 

[Strength8]

6 hours ago, Raggydoll said:

In the way I view Judgment and timing, I would say that the answer would be "Soon!". It is a fire card and its a time of abrupt reckoning, like a surprise inspection where no one has had the time to get their sh*t together (or even put their clothes on 😁) Its the "come as you are" card ☺️

I will jot this down @Raggydoll 😊

I am trying to assign some time frame to cards, unsuccessfully so far, like wands sre fastest, pentaclrs slowest etc. I think part challenge is not having full understanding of each card in itself. I have "general" idea about all cards but not deep enough; or I should say many times I struggle with applicability of a cards to a situation.

Thank you for your input here!

 

[Yola]

Hello everybody, How are you? This is a topic that interests me a lot!!! I even want to thank you @Strength8 because I wrote down these 8 questions in my study notebook and I'm going to try to answer them with each of the 78 arcana (problably this will take a long time, but I'm sure it will be worth it! 🤪). 
I see that our colleagues have already made several brilliant contributions. May I share with you some of my thoughts?

 

1. What will  be the outcome of a certain situation? Transformation, renewal, forgiveness, awakening, transcendence, discovery, communication and announcements, annunciation, receiving an answer, convocation, questioning, judgment, return, recollection, ascension, survey, audit, inventory.

 

2. When will a certain event happen? I agree with @Raggydoll. This is one of the last major arcana. The end of this journey is near and it may be sudden.

 

3. What do I need to know about communication with certain person in near future? Communication is essential, what needs to be said, must be said loud and clear.

 

4. What are their feelings about another person? If well accompanied, I'd say they are ravishing. This person draws attention and brings up old feelings. Or emotions you didn't even remember what they were anymore, those butterflies in your stomach you feel when you first fall in love. If this card is disadvantaged, it would say that you are uncomfortable and disturbed by this person. This person takes your peace away.

 

5. How do they see you? Well accompanied, like someone who calls attention. That "makes noise" wherever it goes. Who communicates well, expresses himself clearly. Who has good judgment. Badly accompanied, I would say that you are a person who bothers. Maybe she's a gossip or even a complainer.

 

6. How do they see a certain situation? As something that draws attention, it is not possible to ignore. Noisy situation. It disturbs, shakes, awakens. Reminds me of what is old. It brings to light what was hidden, covered up, occult, dormant. Something that reopens old doors, frees, transforms.

 

7. What is the next best step for a person to take? "Free yourself from the past and old limitations. Question, analyze. Make a survey of the tools, actions, information you need. Rise, transcend. Communicate, express".

 

8. Yes and No query: I wouldn't know how to answer this question because I don't use this 1 card method for objective answers. But I think this card can be pretty clear depending on the context. For example:
- Will I get the call I'm waiting for? Will the customer reply to me this week? Will the marketing action attract new customers? Am I being the target of comments at the company I work for? Probably yes.
- Will my colleague know how to keep the secret? Should I remain silent in the face of this situation? Is my ex indifferent to me? Probably not.

 

I hope it's useful for all of us! Thanks! 😊

Edited December 4, 2022 by Yola

[Misterei]

On 11/16/2022 at 5:56 PM, DanielJUK said:

I think Judgement and also Temperance are really tricky cards in the Majors because you really have to understand them.

 

The card image in Judgement / Judgment tends to be Judgement Day. The angel blows the trumpet in RWS cards and the dead rise again ...

Judgement is a card that was RUINED for me after I learned its history. Now-a-days we've mostly come to associate it with the Christian imagery of "Judgement Day" ... yet originally ... as Tarocchi in 1400s the card had to do with "fame". The trumpet was a symbol of fame. A type of "immortality" b/c people will know your name and your deeds even after you die.

Now the "Jugement Day" symbolism on so many decks really messes with my mind 😕 And I don't care for the Thoth idea of "aeon" either.

 

Mostly I read it as a health or legal card ... since the symbolism feels so effed-up for me.

Or literally a la LeNormand ... heed the call.

And of course there are the deeper occult meanings which touch upon rebirth and immortality ... but this only applies in pretty rare situations.

 

Mostly it appears for me if there's a law suit, a medical question, or a need to listen to your intuition.

On 11/18/2022 at 12:50 AM, Raggydoll said:

In the way I view Judgment and timing, I would say that the answer would be "Soon!". It is a fire card and its a time of abrupt reckoning, like a surprise inspection where no one has had the time to get their sh*t together (or even put their clothes on 😁) Its the "come as you are" card ☺️

Yes. I have a specific system for timing predictions ... and I don't consider Judgement a timing card at all. But it literally implies some kind of alarm or wake-up call just by the trumpet.

On 11/18/2022 at 7:26 AM, Strength8 said:

I am trying to assign some time frame to cards, unsuccessfully so far, like wands sre fastest, pentaclrs slowest etc.

It took me many years to develop a system for timing predictions that's consistent or accurate. Of of course part of accuracy is that for me, some cards are NOT timing cards ... and I tell the client I'm not getting a solid read on timing. Sorry.

Other times I do get solid timing cards and in those cases ... it's usually accurate.

Edited December 4, 2022 by Misterei

[Chariot]

This is a very tricky card ...unless it's not!  Sometimes it makes perfect sense.  Other times it leaves you dangling a bit.

I usually interpret Judgement as 'You've had all the opportunities to influence or create this situation that you're going to get.  Time for the final assessment.'  Traditionally, the upright card means you did well, while the reversed card means you didn't.  But the reversed card can also mean this reckoning isn't quite ready to happen. Again, it depends on the question and the card's position in the spread.  But deciding whether the result is negative or delayed is sometimes not easy. 

It would be hard for me to say now exactly what the card would 'mean' in each circumstance—even as a yes/no query—as the other cards matter as well.  (I tend not to ask yes/no questions, to be honest.) But I would probably take it to mean that the situation has come to a head, and whatever you've got now is what you'll end up with.  Your opportunity to make more changes is over.   Your bed is made; now you must lie in it. 



 

Edited December 4, 2022 by Chariot

[Misterei]

5 minutes ago, Chariot said:

This is a very tricky card ...unless it's not!  Sometimes it makes perfect sense.  Other times it leaves you dangling a bit.

I usually interpret Judgement as 'You've had all the opportunities to influence or create this situation that you're going to get.  Time for the final assessment.'  ... the situation has come to a head, and whatever you've got now is what you'll end up with.  Your opportunity to make more changes is over.   Your bed is made; now you must lie in it.

This resonates with how it often appears for me in legal or medical topics ... and even in relationship questions sometimes. But you worded it much better than I did.

[Eric13]

You're trying and reaching for something but just can't get there yet, so keep it clean and don't quit. 

[Mister]

Short-schrifting this one, as it is my personal take on that card only, here for those whom it might serve:

 

I did replace the "Jugement" with "La Revelation". Ever since, no troubles.

Things come to light, pretty much like they do under the influence of the "stranger's rune", Perd.

In a sense, a paycheck to ones actions, such covering the karmic tendencies of that card.

Timing-wise, I use it as something nowish, it is within a day or two.

[Strength8]

On 12/4/2022 at 12:37 PM, Yola said:

I wrote down these 8 questions in my study notebook and I'm going to try to answer them with each of the 78 arcana (problably this will take a long time, but I'm sure it will be worth it! 🤪). 

Hi Yola, I thought about doing the same when I wrote these questions for the Judgment card but then I get lazy 😄 Hoping you will get it done! and Thank you for your detailed input on answering those questions.

@Mister @Eric13 @Chariot @Misterei I appreciate each one of your time and effort to explain how you see this card.

On 12/4/2022 at 1:26 PM, Misterei said:

yet originally ... as Tarocchi in 1400s the card had to do with "fame". The trumpet was a symbol of fame. A type of "immortality" b/c people will know your name and your deeds even after you die.

 @Misterei I am not familiar with this but this is interesting.

 

On 12/4/2022 at 1:26 PM, Misterei said:

It took me many years to develop a system for timing predictions that's consistent or accurate.

I understand that it would surely take time and as an inexperienced person I might be wanting to "get it right" quickly and that is not going to give accurate results.

On 12/4/2022 at 1:31 PM, Chariot said:

usually interpret Judgement as 'You've had all the opportunities to influence or create this situation that you're going to get.  Time for the final assessment.'  Traditionally, the upright card means you did well, while the reversed card means you didn't.  But the reversed card can also mean this reckoning isn't quite ready to happen.

reap what you sow is the impression I am getting here. I have tried doing reversals and see myself getting caught up in "how to shuffle cards right to get the reversals right way" :-)