This is the DE-ENABLE thread concerning buying and reading of tarot.

[NealDT]

4 hours ago, timtoldrum said:

 

The Birch Rod is a tool of corporal punishment. It is a picture of chastisement and corrective action.  You will be admonished or asked to make changes or revisions to something, and so on.  Someone may be given one, three, eleven lashes and so on.  The point is that there is an end.  People can argue regularly, but it is not on an endless loop. 

 

The ring denotes repetition because it is a circle and has no clear end or beginning.  You are in a loop.  It does not need to be quiescent.  Cycles can wax and wane.  

 

That is just my take.  

Oh, I understand your point. Thank you so much for pointing out my mistake. I tried to use the phrase "non-ending loop" to describe the repetition in Whip card, but it turned out I was using the wrong one. What I meant is the Whip depicts problems that need solution or else it will annoy one's daily life until it's been resolved; my point is that without a solution, the problems mentioned by the Whip card will keep on going. Sorry if I couldn't express it clearer because I always struggle when finding the right words to express my point.

 

Apologize to everyone for my mistake 😥😥😥 next time I will be more careful when describing the meaning of the cards. 

Edited October 18, 2020 by NealDT

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, NealDT said:

Oh, I understand your point. Thank you so much for pointing out my mistake. I tried to use the phrase "non-ending loop" to describe the repetition in Whip card, but it turned out I was using the wrong one. What I meant is the Whip depicts problems that need solution or else it will annoy one's daily life until it's been resolved; my point is that without a solution, the problems mentioned by the Whip card will keep on going. Sorry if I couldn't express it clearer because I always struggle when finding the right words to express my point.

 

Apologize to everyone for my mistake 😥😥😥 next time I will be more careful when describing the meaning of the cards. 

There is no need to apologise. You did not say anything wrong and there are differing views on this.

The Birch Rod does often need a solution. Sometimes someone steps in (such as the Bear or Lilies). Other times you sit down at the table and thrash it out. A lot of older decks showed a table (GoH, Leipzig, etc).

There is a folklore to the Petit Lenormand that is often lost in books - and I say that as an author. Rana will stand you in good stead. 

[katrinka]

Bumping this.

Need de-enabled due to holiday obligations? Need to buy gifts but WANT to buy a deck?
Let us FIX that, lol.

 

 

[Raggydoll]

53 minutes ago, katrinka said:

Bumping this.

Need de-enabled due to holiday obligations? Need to buy gifts but WANT to buy a deck?
Let us FIX that, lol.

 

 

Yes indeed 😛

 

 

 

[Decan]

[katrinka]

19 minutes ago, Raggydoll said:

Yes indeed 😛

 

 

 

[katrinka]

@Decan - I'm certainly not going to argue with Milarepa!

[AlbaTross]

Well, it's good to know I'm not alone in my bad habit of buying Tarot decks.  I'm going to have a total of 8 decks soon (not including the novelty deck I started with), as I just ordered 4 more.  I don't plan on buying any more for a good while, but I guess I'll make a post here if that should change.  

 

One thing I've decided is that every deck I own should have a purpose, such as what type of readings I think I'll lean towards using that deck for, based largely on what I feel when I look at the imagery of the cards.  I might want something upbeat, or somber, depending on the occasion.  Maybe I want something simple, or something with some detailed imagery.  If I want to go back to basics I have my RWS deck. 

 

When I think about investing in a new deck, I try to think of a purpose for it that fills a niche none of the other decks do...well, relatively speaking.  Any deck I own can be used for any reading.  Some just feel more right for certain readings than others, but once I have a deck that seems especially pertinent for a particular kind of reading, I don't feel the need for another.  Of course, I was able to think of a purpose for each one I just ordered, so perhaps this inclination is not the limiter it ought to be.  But, with any luck, it will still greatly reduce the number of decks I buy on impulse.  

[Rori]

Can anyone de-enable me from buying the Jonasa Jaus 6th edition? (https://jonasajaus.com/products/pre-order-jonasajaus-6th-edition)

See, I KNOW the only thing that makes me want this is FOMO, because back when the edition with this coloring was OOP I used to see it around Tarot-Tube and I never actively wanted it, I just thought it was pretty. But now that it's back, I feel like I should splurge? If only because she announced somewhere (I think on Insta) that this will be the last print run.

The thing is, it's really just pretty. For me, at least. The symbolism on some of the cards doesn't really hit home for me and I really don't dig the all white, all young, all body-beautiful women in the cards... but the art style! And the limited color palette! 😍

 

 

Help 😅

Edited May 18, 2021 by Rori
added the picture properly

[gregory]

I could use some help with this one, too. She keeps emailing me to remind me about it as I bought the first version and also the Stunning. I delete every email but I keep thinking MAYBE, like for COMPLETION and that....

[AJ-ish/Sharyn]

Umm... The symbolism on some of the cards doesn't really hit home for me and I really don't dig the all white, all young, all body-beautiful women in the cards

 

 

[Rori]

1 hour ago, AJ-ish/Sharyn said:

Umm... The symbolism on some of the cards doesn't really hit home for me and I really don't dig the all white, all young, all body-beautiful women in the cards

 

 

Honestly, you'd think that should be enough, and it's definitely why I haven't hit the buy button yet - but then I keep going back to the website because it's just such a gorgeous deck?

[katrinka]

OK, but just remember, you guys asked...

 

Wahoo! It's yet another deck of sketches depicting WASPy girls and flowers in a limited color palette! It would go well with all those other trendy decks with WASPy girls and flowers and limited color palettes. The ones we can't recall the names of or where we put them, only that they are stashed away someplace waiting for a decluttering.

Seis D'Ouros - the 6 of Coins? No coins, but there's a girl. Why? And why are there rays of light coming out of her head, is she a saint? Mabel, the Patron Saint of Cheap Dates? If I get this card in a reading about work or finances, is it telling me to...no. Just NO.

Her nose and lips are beginning to turn blue. She is either very cold or recently deceased. Maybe it's intended to represent the blonde from Rhihanna's B*tch Better Have My Money video. That would be fun. But you'd need a Rihanna card to go with it and I doubt Jaus included one. Jausworld has all the diversity of Mayberry.

Next, we have the Ace of Swords. The Sword is in a tangle of flowering weeds. These symbolize the fact that the artist thought they were pretty. Beyond that, a multitude of pen lines loom in a bile colored sky.

The 9 of Batons shows nine flowers growing on stalks. This isn't a Tarot, it's a flower oracle. Just not a very good one.

 

Edited May 18, 2021 by katrinka

[Decan]

The cards are too long it’s disharmonious and to shuffle them will be probably uneasy (and unpleasant).

The artwork looks comic strip artwork, it lacks of soul.

[katrinka]

4 hours ago, Decan said:

it lacks of soul.

This, and I don't mean that in just the "Where are the POC?" sense.  It literally has no soul, no essence, no sense of the artist doing anything but following some formula in hopes of making money. That's an issue with a lot of the indie decks I'm seeing, and it's discouraging. Independent art should bubble up from a place that has something to say. This has nothing to say. It's the Tarot equivalent of Hallmark.

[katrinka]

17 hours ago, Rori said:

Honestly, you'd think that should be enough, and it's definitely why I haven't hit the buy button yet - but then I keep going back to the website because it's just such a gorgeous deck?

The Victorian Romantic is gorgeous. The Thoth is gorgeous.
I don't think this deck is gorgeous. You do you, but color me not impressed.

Edited May 19, 2021 by katrinka

[Rori]

On 5/18/2021 at 9:54 PM, katrinka said:

OK, but just remember, you guys asked...

 

Wahoo! It's yet another deck of sketches depicting WASPy girls and flowers in a limited color palette! It would go well with all those other trendy decks with WASPy girls and flowers and limited color palettes. The ones we can't recall the names of or where we put them, only that they are stashed away someplace waiting for a decluttering.

Seis D'Ouros - the 6 of Coins? No coins, but there's a girl. Why? And why are there rays of light coming out of her head, is she a saint? Mabel, the Patron Saint of Cheap Dates? If I get this card in a reading about work or finances, is it telling me to...no. Just NO.

Her nose and lips are beginning to turn blue. She is either very cold or recently deceased. Maybe it's intended to represent the blonde from Rhihanna's B*tch Better Have My Money video. That would be fun. But you'd need a Rihanna card to go with it and I doubt Jaus included one. Jausworld has all the diversity of Mayberry.

Next, we have the Ace of Swords. The Sword is in a tangle of flowering weeds. These symbolize the fact that the artist thought they were pretty. Beyond that, a multitude of pen lines loom in a bile colored sky.

The 9 of Batons shows nine flowers growing on stalks. This isn't a Tarot, it's a flower oracle. Just not a very good one.

 

This is actually exactly what I needed to hear - thank you!
 

 

On 5/19/2021 at 6:01 AM, Decan said:

The cards are too long it’s disharmonious and to shuffle them will be probably uneasy (and unpleasant).

The artwork looks comic strip artwork, it lacks of soul.

 

I don't usually mind decks that can't be riffle-shuffled, especially since these are handcut, which to me adds personality - but you're right about the art! It's the color palette that did it for me, because that lilac color is one of my favorites, but I didn't like the art work much at all in the other, greenish color palette she came out with.

 

On 5/19/2021 at 11:08 AM, katrinka said:

This, and I don't mean that in just the "Where are the POC?" sense.  It literally has no soul, no essence, no sense of the artist doing anything but following some formula in hopes of making money. That's an issue with a lot of the indie decks I'm seeing, and it's discouraging. Independent art should bubble up from a place that has something to say. This has nothing to say. It's the Tarot equivalent of Hallmark.

Gah, right again - it's an artsy deck but not a deep deck. And the lack of POC really does bother me a LOT.

 

On 5/19/2021 at 11:11 AM, katrinka said:

The Victorian Romantic is gorgeous. The Thoth is gorgeous.
I don't think this deck is gorgeous. You do you, but color me not impressed.

The Victorian Romantic is way above my budget 😉

 

But no, you guys are right. I'm going to sit down and draw something using the same color palette, because I think that's literally the main reason I want the deck, and that should scratch the itch. Thank you!!

[bastetly]

Ok folks, I need some help w this one!  The Edmund Dulac Tarot...  I love the illustrations and really want this deck, buuut the reviews on Amazon are VERY mixed.  From "no booklet",  to thin unacceptable cardstock, to pictures being too dark!  Published by Llewellyn.  Anyone have this deck and would care to DE-Enable me OR enable me, I will be most grateful.  And let me know who you purchased from as there are sellers fm China whose deck sizes are smaller and very cheap.  But the LLewellyn doesn't sound that much better?

[HOLMES]

Do you really want a boring picture of a person walking a panther? They could of did so much more with it. Active wise even morgon greer wise grrt

[bastetly]

3 minutes ago, HOLMES said:

Do you really want a boring picture of a person walking a panther? They could of did so much more with it. Active wise even morgon greer wise grrt

Hi HOLMES, do you have this deck?  I rather like that Strength? panther card.  These are art cards made to fit the Tarot structure...

(And I have the Morgan-Greer which I adore.)  

[HOLMES]

No i looked at the image trying to denable you

I love morgon greer, the artist could of did that like morgon greer artist  even.

[bastetly]

9 hours ago, HOLMES said:

No i looked at the image trying to denable you

I love morgon greer, the artist could of did that like morgon greer artist  even.

Yes the Dulac is much simpler but elegant I think.  

Edited June 16, 2021 by bastetly

[bastetly]

I remember someone commenting that the traditional Strength cards remind one of trying to remove something fm a dog's mouth!  (or trying to get medicine down one's pets' mouth lol.)  But back to problems with the DULAC deck...

[AJ-ish/Sharyn]

if you love love love it, get it, it's a cheap mass market deck. (we Never encourage bootleg copy purchases here by the way)

Looking at the photos of the cards here on an ebay auction

https://www.ebay.com/itm/SEALED-NEW-EDMUND-DULAC-TAROT-CARDS-DECK-ORACLE-MAGICAL-MYSTICAL-ARTWORK/353212959363?  it looks like big gaudy top and bottom borders. Ick. 

in the US this is identified on Amazon as a Llewellyn deck, but they are just the north american distributors for LoScarabeo whose card stock is consistently premium, and imminently shuffleable, so if you like the thick card stock so often found on self published decks, don't buy this deck. 

I quit buying LoS antique artist decks long ago, much of it won't make any tarot sense. ... What card would you say 'the princess and the pea' story goes with? If you want a smaller copy, just trim the borders off, but good luck knowing what the cards are then supposed to stand for. 

The accompanying "book"... will be a tiny fold out most likely with generic 3 word keywords, nothing to do with the art unless they had room for a small paragraph in the beginning. 

If you love Dulac, get yourself a glossy book with his prints in it! Not a lot but hope it helps deenable you, since that is what this thread is for. 

Edited June 15, 2021 by AJ-ish/Sharyn

[katrinka]

1 hour ago, bastetly said:

Ok folks, I need some help w this one!  The Edmund Dulac Tarot...  I love the illustrations and really want this deck, buuut the reviews on Amazon are VERY mixed.  From "no booklet",  to thin unacceptable cardstock, to pictures being too dark!  Published by Llewellyn.  Anyone have this deck and would care to DE-Enable me OR enable me, I will be most grateful.  And let me know who you purchased from as there are sellers fm China whose deck sizes are smaller and very cheap.  But the LLewellyn doesn't sound that much better?

As an aside from de-enabling, Amazon groups all of any particular item together in their warehouse. So when you order a certain deck there, you might or might not get a pirate copy.

That's the reason Birkenstock won't sell their shoes there anymore, or allow their authorized dealers to. When amazon got a shipment from Birkenstock, they would just put them with the stock in the warehouse. A person might ORDER from the Birkenstock "store" at amazon, but the warehouse worker would just grab a pair of shoes from the shelf that might be from anywhere. The shoes were all mixed up and a lot of people ended up spending $100+ on damaged or pirated shoes worth maybe $20 at most.
https://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/20/birkenstock-quits-amazon-in-us-after-counterfeit-surge.html

(You can still get Birkenstocks from other dealers at amazon, but why would you?)

It's the same with decks.
If we don't succeed in de-enabling you, purchase from Llewellyn or one of their authorized dealers.