Raggydoll Posted January 21, 2020 Author Posted January 21, 2020 I agree with @joy - no one is laughing at your art!! I knew you had to do this particular card @Jewel because it is truly one of your personal archetypes ❤️
Jewel Posted January 21, 2020 Posted January 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, joy said: Jewel I love it!!! ❤️ Not sure what you mean about 'real' art, this is real art! Maybe we have to start a thread where we can talk about the meaning of art 😉 I love love love it!!! And look forward to see it colored! By real art I mean someone that could make it prettier, more stylized. My art is crude and amateur looking to me. I think I have what @Raggydoll said she had, where you look at what you do and it is just never good enough. I love other people's art but when it comes to my own I never feel like it is worthy to really share, much less publish in a deck! 😆
Jewel Posted January 21, 2020 Posted January 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Raggydoll said: I agree with @joy - no one is laughing at your art!! I knew you had to do this particular card @Jewel because it is truly one of your personal archetypes ❤️ Are you sure you don't want to be my proxy and bring her to life (keep what's there but make it all pretty and shiny? .... Yes it is a personal archetype, perhaps a self-portrait of my soul. I call her Jewel
Jewel Posted January 21, 2020 Posted January 21, 2020 On 1/20/2020 at 10:25 AM, Raggydoll said: Tiny update. Clothes and labyrinth pendant done. And now I’m going to start working on the background. STUNNING! 😍
Jewel Posted January 21, 2020 Posted January 21, 2020 On 1/15/2020 at 5:25 AM, stephanelli said: So I've been doing lots of work on my card since I posted my concept drawing. (Just to say as well that I'm using the free program called Krita, I can highly recommend, I find it much more intuitive than a lot of the other digital art programs around). All the photos are ones that I've taken. I took a nice picture of my wheel and have been busy cropping it (I did a magic crop and then tidied it up using an eraser brush to get transparency around it). Then I was flicking through my pictures for a nice background and came on one that I realised was absolutely perfect. I had to do a little adjustment - extending the grass in front with a clone brush, cropping the top because it wasn't centred right for use here (but was a lovely photo on its own!). Then I've layered the two images and I'm so happy with the result! I've still got more I intend to do. I've got adjustments to do on the wheel (mainly adding some extra details to it) and I need to work out how I'm going to add little fairies that will turn the wheel but I'm pleased with progress so far. The idea is that the wheel is going to look like its almost floating here - it is the Wheel of Fortune after all - so I'll either have like a cloudy effect or a magically sparkly effect, I haven't decided which yet! I've got some great ideas for my LWB notes too (both extended and short versions!) I love your concept (drawn version) and this is looking so beautiful. Can't wait to see the faeries added!
Jewel Posted January 21, 2020 Posted January 21, 2020 On 1/17/2020 at 10:46 PM, Starlight said: I've had a breakthrough and just have to share it! I've figured out how to save high-res images from Powerpoint!! Woo hoo! (Needed to go into the regedit thingy to do it.) And I've made transparent backgrounds for the different elements on the card using GIMP. The method is time-consuming but it works!! (On another note, GIMP is too complicated for this newb to actually create the card in, but it is a software worth getting to grips with over the course of the year, I think. 🙂 ) I'm so thrilled and too fizzy-excited to hold it in! 🤩 I've had a rethink about one of the elements on my card and I need to re-do it, but the finished card will look a bit like this: I love this, so visual!
Jewel Posted January 21, 2020 Posted January 21, 2020 On 1/18/2020 at 12:08 PM, Wanderer said: You're very welcome, @Raggydoll - 'tis no more than the truth. As someone who can't draw faces at all, you've got a good big dollop of respect from me! For The Fool, I've been working through ideas, and settling on a concept, but thought you might like to see the first very rough sketch of the outline. It probably will change in details of the content, but this is the basic composition. It will also change completely in style; this is a pencil sketch to try out the basic shape of it, whereas I'll do the real version in ink, and probably also some partial, wash-like colour if the finished drawing needs it. The idea is to be a more visceral version of the Fool, without the rainbows or stepping blindly into abyss... this is someone (no gender specified) who is being tempted to abandon the safety of civilization, passing through the dolmen gateway (a path to the Underworld, Otherworlds, or who-knows-where) without having a clue what they're doing. There is no bag and no equipment beyond a new (shiny but impractical) staff, but instead luxurious clothing that will get ripped to shreds in an hour. The stone is a warning that 'Here be dragons!'. Despite this, that distant tower and the hazy mountains inevitably call to the young and curious, and to any who are willing to risk everything for an adventure, and simply to know what's out there. Our Fool is one such person: they know nothing of the path ahead of them, except that it will be dangerous. The confidence of youth ignores such concerns. They have honed and practised none of the skills needed to triumph, but that is always the way of it... at the beginning of the Tarot's journey, we are all unprepared, but that doesn't stop us being drawn forward regardless. The Raven, archetype of wisdom and transformation, doesn't look optimistic about this new Fool, the latest to step onto the path. But who can say the outcome? This story is yet to be written. This is a really awesome depiction of the Fool, there is something so spiritual about it that I love.
joy Posted January 21, 2020 Posted January 21, 2020 @Jewel the first step to become an artist is: Stop comparing yourself with others. The beauty about art and creativity is, that each person has a unique style! And once more, I LOVE LOVE LOVE your 'Jewel', she is beautiful!
Jewel Posted January 21, 2020 Posted January 21, 2020 1 minute ago, joy said: @Jewel the first step to become an artist is: Stop comparing yourself with others. The beauty about art and creativity is, that each person has a unique style! And once more, I LOVE LOVE LOVE your 'Jewel', she is beautiful! Thank you and I am glad you like her. I need to now get over onto watercolor paper so I can really mess her up! I just know someone else could do her as I see her in my head! 😆
geoxena Posted January 21, 2020 Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Wanderer said: Out of interest, what scale are people doing the drawings at? I'm working at 1.5x final, but using quite a lot of detail. I'm working at not quite 3x scale. I don't know why I went that large. I was thinking it would be easier to work on, but I have my moments when I wonder if my figures still need to be larger on that size paper than how I started making them. I also realized I miscalculated the height, so I'll have to add a little bit to it. In addition, I created a challenge for myself by wanting heavy contrast between dark and light values, and so I need to be careful with the colored pencils in the dark areas to avoid them from just looking like mud. I'm really enjoying the process! It's been years since I created any kind of artwork. Edited January 21, 2020 by geoxena
Wanderer Posted January 21, 2020 Posted January 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Jewel said: OK so here is my concept for the Novice of Water. I am no expert artist so please don't laugh too hard I selected this card because on a soul level I have a connection with it, which is the premise for my concept. CONCEPT FOR THE NOVICE OF WATER: The Novice of Water is Earth of Water elementally, so she is shape shifting if you will from her water form into an earthly form (hopefully I can make the bottom of her dress look like water when I color this) She is imaginative, intuitive, sensitive (emotionally as well as to the other-world influences) and creative. The Undine represents her ultimate bond with the element of water and her inner self (intuition), and her sensitivity to the other-world. The art palette and paint brush reflect her creativity,emotional expression, the fish in the cup talking to her speaks to her imagination. Through her intuition, imagination, and creative expression you experience her sensitivity. Her smile reflects the joy and wonder with which she sees the world. Even in her innocence she carries the sensuality of the element of water. She is a dreamer. She's adorable, @Jewel! That expression, too... I can't help feeling that there's a lot to read in this one! @geoxena - three times scale, woohoo! I think that is called making the most of the process, so I'm really glad to hear you're enjoying it! I'm looking forward to seeing what you do with the coloured pencils; I've never mastered the art of them, and remember encountering exactly that problem of too much muddiness in heavy shading... Art is a wonderful thing to do, though - I dabble every now and then, mainly to post (literally, with stamps and everything) pictures back to my computer-free mum when I'm in far-off places, but slip out of the habit when I'm home again. It's brilliant to have this incentive to pick up a pen(cil) again...
Raggydoll Posted January 21, 2020 Author Posted January 21, 2020 I admire everyone who creates colorful art! As you’ve seen, I tend to go for the black/grey/white scale but I absolutely love colorful pieces too 🥰
geoxena Posted January 21, 2020 Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Wanderer said: . . . three times scale, woohoo! I think that is called making the most of the process, so I'm really glad to hear you're enjoying it! I'm looking forward to seeing what you do with the coloured pencils; I've never mastered the art of them, and remember encountering exactly that problem of too much muddiness in heavy shading... Art is a wonderful thing to do, though. . . Yes, I love creating art and don't know what kept me from doing it for so long. As for the potentially muddy dark areas, I am hopefully combatting that with a complementary underdrawing. I never used underdrawings before and it seems to add depth. I just hope it will translate well enough once scanned and reduced to the needed size. Edited January 21, 2020 by geoxena
Wanderer Posted January 21, 2020 Posted January 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, geoxena said: Yes, I love creating art and don't know what kept me from doing it for so long. As for the potentially muddy dark areas, I am hopefully combatting that with a complementary underdrawing. I never used underdrawings before and it seems to add depth. I just hope it will translate well enough once scanned and reduced to the needed size. I'm sure it will - go for it! (I often end up trying something out before actually enacting it in the real thing... but like you, underdrawings aren't something I've tried.)
geoxena Posted January 21, 2020 Posted January 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, Raggydoll said: I admire everyone who creates colorful art! As you’ve seen, I tend to go for the black/grey/white scale but I absolutely love colorful pieces too 🥰 I've always used either pen and ink or charcoal, so my stuff has always been monochromatic. But this past year, I got into grown-up coloring books for stress relief. I found that I really enjoy working with shading and colored pencils. I was never afraid of color in my home decor, or what I wear, so creating colorful art is a new way for me to branch out from those areas!
Raggydoll Posted January 21, 2020 Author Posted January 21, 2020 Just now, geoxena said: I've always used either pen and ink or charcoal, so my stuff has always been monochromatic. But this past year, I got into grown-up coloring books for stress relief. I found that I really enjoy working with shading and colored pencils. I was never afraid of color in my home decor, or what I wear, so creating colorful art is a new way for me to branch out from those areas! That’s great! I love colorful home decor too! (Especially bold oil paintings and colorful fabrics 😀)
Jewel Posted January 21, 2020 Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Raggydoll said: That’s great! I love colorful home decor too! (Especially bold oil paintings and colorful fabrics 😀) You would my house then! Bright blue crazy guest bathroom with our collection of Fish With Attitudes (over 50) all over the walls, a Mardi Gras Room with decorative masks painted by me and beads hanging on the walls, Living room is in progress, got the colorful rug and accent chair, need to make the sofa through pillows from same colorful polka dot materials as the accent chair, and a bohemian sunroom in conceptualization process (many of my crystals live out there and it is also my art room). I love love love color. What is this "underdrawing" you all speak of? I will be using watercolor pencils, with some markers ... If it looks bad I will rip it up and start all over again 😆 I personally prefer painting with acrylics but I will have more time to do it in peace if I do it at work during my lunch hours rather trying to do it at home. My older pup has become very dependent and needy and I become his personal attendant from the moment I walk in the door until he goes to sleep for the night (which can be after midnight to 2 AM 😩) Edited January 21, 2020 by Jewel
Raggydoll Posted January 21, 2020 Author Posted January 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Jewel said: You would my house then! Bright blue crazy guest bathroom with our collection of Fish With Attitudes (over 50) all over the walls, a Mardi Gras Room with decorative masks painted by me and beads hanging on the walls, Living room is in progress, got the colorful rug and accent chair, need to make the sofa through pillows from same colorful polka dot materials as the accent chair, and a bohemian sunroom in conceptualization process (many of my crystals live out there and it is also my art room). I love love love color. What is this "underdrawing" you all speak of? I will be using watercolor pencils, with some markers ... If it looks bad I will rip it up and start all over again 😆 Your house would surely be an experience - especially the Mardi Gras Room 😁! I’m glad you asked about underdrawing because I had never heard that expression before. Is it when you work in layers? Or when you use a base color?
Wanderer Posted January 21, 2020 Posted January 21, 2020 As I understand it (which isn't very well... ), underdrawing is doing a drawing first, and then adding translucent colour so that the drawing shows through or contributes to the end result in terms of shading or structure... kind-of like a line drawing with a wash over it, but less obvious. But then, I've never really done it! Mine's getting somewhere now... but still a long way to go. Haven't done the left side at all, or the sky, and need to add deep shadows and extra texture to some of the rest. I'll also go over it once it's all there to balance the shading depth across foreground and stages of background. I'd forgotten how satisfying it is to do a polished drawing, rather than sketches... it's probably been 20 years since I did one like this!
Raggydoll Posted January 21, 2020 Author Posted January 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, Wanderer said: As I understand it (which isn't very well... ), underdrawing is doing a drawing first, and then adding translucent colour so that the drawing shows through or contributes to the end result in terms of shading or structure... kind-of like a line drawing with a wash over it, but less obvious. But then, I've never really done it! Mine's getting somewhere now... but still a long way to go. Haven't done the left side at all, or the sky, and need to add deep shadows and extra texture to some of the rest. I'll also go over it once it's all there to balance the shading depth across foreground and stages of background. I'd forgotten how satisfying it is to do a polished drawing, rather than sketches... it's probably been 20 years since I did one like this! There is so much potential there and I can’t wait to see more!! You are talented Mr!!
Wanderer Posted January 21, 2020 Posted January 21, 2020 Thanks, Raggy! I'm utterly terrible at faces, but landscapes are what I grew up doing. This one is coming along quite quickly now, so I may get it done by the weekend... will try not to keep you waiting too long!
joy Posted January 21, 2020 Posted January 21, 2020 Just love this thread and to follow everyone is such a pleasure and inspiring! I used to be a very black/white person and would only want to add a tiny wee bit color here and there. Since living in the tropics that changed, as there is so much bright colors out there. But I still love black/white ink/charcoal/pencil drawings! So I am both now, the bright and monochrome person 😁
geoxena Posted January 21, 2020 Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) An underdrawing is a drawing used as a first layer under colored pencils or paintings. They're usually either one tone, like a brown, or in complementary colors to what the final layer (aka "local color") will be. You do the underdrawings very lightly, indicating where shading and highlights will be, and then build layers of color on top. I chose to use a complementary underdrawing to give depth to the dark areas of my drawing. So, where the final color will be blue, the underdrawing is red. Underneath the skin tone of my Hermit, the underdrawing is a blue-green. Here is a page with links to tutorials on underdrawing techniques (aimed at colored pencil users): https://www.carrie-lewis.com/start-here/colored-pencil-drawing-methods/ Edited January 21, 2020 by geoxena
Jewel Posted January 21, 2020 Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Wanderer said: Thanks, Raggy! I'm utterly terrible at faces, but landscapes are what I grew up doing. This one is coming along quite quickly now, so I may get it done by the weekend... will try not to keep you waiting too long! Your landscape is stunning! I really want to go there! Care to add a landscape to my Novice of Water? ~giggles~ I intend to try to tie in the "earth element" into that, i.e. have the chalice with the Novice in a natural earthy setting, perhaps some mountains in the background or some rocks. Edited January 21, 2020 by Jewel
Jewel Posted January 21, 2020 Posted January 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, geoxena said: An underdrawing is a drawing used as a first layer under colored pencils or paintings. They're usually either one tone, like a brown, or in complementary colors to what the final layer (aka "local color") will be. You do the underdrawings very lightly, indicating where shading and highlights will be, and then build layers of color on top. I chose to use a complementary underdrawing to give depth to the dark areas of my drawing. So, where the final color will be blue, the underdrawing is red. Underneath the skin tone of my Hermit, the underdrawing is a blue-green. Here is an informative page about it, with links to tutorials (aimed at colored pencil users): https://www.carrie-lewis.com/start-here/colored-pencil-drawing-methods/ Thank you so much, I am going to check that out before I start coloring.
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