Wanderer Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Grandma said: @Wanderer I love your Four of Water! My first response was "two roads diverged in a yellow wood". Food for thought, yes? Thank you, Grandma! And... yes. Frost isn't quite so well known over here, so I didn't recognise the line at first. But the road less travelled, indeed...
joy Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 9 hours ago, Wanderer said: Here you go, then - a coloured 4 of Water. A confluence of four streams leads to a new vista: the river stretching out into the distance, funneling thoughts into a new direction. Strange patterns emerge, for the scene is only partly real and partly of the imagination; the straight river is shaded by regular lines of gnarled, overhanging oaks, with light in the distance. Is this real, or an allegory? It is time to stop, absorb the strangeness before you, and come to terms with what you feel, and what it is telling you. Beautiful!!! Love it uncolored too but the little tiny tad of colors just makes it very special!
Grandma Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Wanderer said: Thank you, Grandma! And... yes. I was taught by a wise teacher that a good way to start is to "1. Write down your immediate emotional reaction to it. How does it make you feel, and what memories or associations does it evoke? Don't analyse anything, just write down what comes to you." So even though the concepts of streams merging and paths diverging seem antithetical, my response is important to my reading of the card - right, wise teacher?
Wanderer Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 38 minutes ago, Grandma said: I was taught by a wise teacher that a good way to start is to "1. Write down your immediate emotional reaction to it. How does it make you feel, and what memories or associations does it evoke? Don't analyse anything, just write down what comes to you." So even though the concepts of streams merging and paths diverging seem antithetical, my response is important to my reading of the card - right, wise teacher? Yep, you got me! More seriously, though, the converging streams are showing one path: the flow of water is inevitable and acts as a constant guide, and an easy option... which is, of course, why we 'go with the flow'. The 'path less traveled' is, instead, deciding to head off somewhere else, and explore what there is in the deep woods: to refuse the tunnel-vision and promise of light, but head into the dark. They're different sides of the same concept, which is why connections leap into our heads. Opposites are indeed the defining feature of each, are they not? The darkness of the trees defines the light of the space between, and the flow of water accentuates the stillness that it flows past. An afficionado of the yin-yang might well recognise this more easily than most...
Symph Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 On 1/13/2020 at 8:02 AM, Raggydoll said: So I scanned my picture and had some fun with it. I wanted to see what it would look like as a finished card. Here is a screenshot (hence the graininess) of what it looked like in printerstudios software: The red line you see on the card marks the 'safe area'. Text and important details must be kept within that area. Its so cool to see what it could actually look like, it makes it all seem so much real! Is any of that a photo? Did you actually draw the whole thing? I seriously seriously love it. The expression on her face is perfect for the suit of swords I'm actually amazed at how much that feeeels like the knight of swords energy to me. It's confident, smart, but also seems a bit young and like she might be a bit more impulsive than if this were the queen of swords, which is exactly what the card should represent. It's got all the elements I'm so impressed!
Wanderer Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 54 minutes ago, joy said: Beautiful!!! Love it uncolored too but the little tiny tad of colors just makes it very special! Thanks, Joy! It's strange how that little slosh of colour weakens the detail, but somehow makes the whole more compelling. It seems to work, though, so I'll carry on with it.
Jewel Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 10 hours ago, Wanderer said: Here you go, then - a coloured 4 of Water. A confluence of four streams leads to a new vista: the river stretching out into the distance, funneling thoughts into a new direction. Strange patterns emerge, for the scene is only partly real and partly of the imagination; the straight river is shaded by regular lines of gnarled, overhanging oaks, with light in the distance. Is this real, or an allegory? It is time to stop, absorb the strangeness before you, and come to terms with what you feel, and what it is telling you. Beautiful card!!! I love it! @Starlightthank you! @Raggydollyes, I suppose I could do the log in a different color .... I could go all kinds of crazy all over the place 😆
Grandma Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 31 minutes ago, Wanderer said: An afficionado of the yin-yang might well recognise this more easily than most... Hmmm...that does kinda sound like me... One of the first conversations I had with Grandpa was about how things can be seen as both a blessing and a curse, and how the ability to see them that way is both a blessing and a curse. (Speaking of Grandpa and completely off topic, but since so many of the contributors to the long-ago Grandpa thread are on this thread as well, I will mention that Grandpa and I have severed our relationship. Because of the loving and supportive gifted readings I received, I had a good last go at it and knew when to let it go.)
Grandma Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 Okay, here's what I've got so far. Since I haven't yet purchased the images I've partly X'd them out. The large picture is a man sitting on a bench, head bent, eyes closed, hands folded. Is he dejected, pensive, praying, asleep? The yin yangs show 1) an old man who seems alone, isolated, poor, hungry, worn out, and a young family who represent love, togetherness, comfort and vitality, everything the old man has lost or perhaps never had. You can see I went for diversity in my characters; 2) the beginning of life, a fetus, and the end, a skull; 3) fire and water; 4) night and day; and 5) the words - look carefully - "joy" and "despair". This one doesn't need to be x'd because it is my own design which I even have tattooed on the back of my shoulders. Some of the colors, like the bright green background of the family, are wrong, and the sizes, spacing, and rotation of the yin yangs need tweaking, but what do you think? Please keep in mind the concept that the Five of Pentacles represents pain, rejection, hardship and sickness and loneliness and abandonment and on and on, but it also represents the possibility of hope, safety, recovery and warmth.
Symph Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Grandma said: Okay, here's what I've got so far. Since I haven't yet purchased the images I've partly X'd them out. The large picture is a man sitting on a bench, head bent, eyes closed, hands folded. Is he dejected, pensive, praying, asleep? The yin yangs show 1) an old man who seems alone, isolated, poor, hungry, worn out, and a young family who represent love, togetherness, comfort and vitality, everything the old man has lost or perhaps never had. You can see I went for diversity in my characters; 2) the beginning of life, a fetus, and the end, a skull; 3) fire and water; 4) night and day; and 5) the words - look carefully - "joy" and "despair". This one doesn't need to be x'd because it is my own design which I even have tattooed on the back of my shoulders. Some of the colors, like the bright green background of the family, are wrong, and the sizes, spacing, and rotation of the yin yangs need tweaking, but what do you think? Please keep in mind the concept that the Five of Pentacles represents pain, rejection, hardship and sickness and loneliness and abandonment and on and on, but it also represents the possibility of hope, safety, recovery and warmth. The yin yangs were a very cool touch it really adds to the meaning of the card... I really like the way it visually represents the dual nature of the card's meaning, how there is closeness and growth in suffering etc.
Grandma Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 Thank you @Symph - I'm glad the dual nature comes across! Your "etc." might include such ideas as it may not be accurate to judge by appearances. The old man could be at peace in his rough circumstances while some seemingly happy families are suffering in ways that we cannot see. And some opposites such as night and day are intrinsically neither good nor bad, better nor worse. Circumstances and perception can change meaning. Ooh I'm getting good ideas for my long description! Thanks for getting me started!
Symph Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Grandma said: Thank you @Symph - I'm glad the dual nature comes across! Your "etc." might include such ideas as it may not be accurate to judge by appearances. The old man could be at peace in his rough circumstances while some seemingly happy families are suffering in ways that we cannot see. And some opposites such as night and day are intrinsically neither good nor bad, better nor worse. Circumstances and perception can change meaning. Ooh I'm getting good ideas for my long description! Thanks for getting me started! hahaha I do what I can *takes a bow*
Grandma Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 15 minutes ago, Symph said: hahaha I do what I can *takes a bow*
Symph Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, Grandma said: OMG you just made my WEEK!! hahaha my wife cracked up too!!
Morsoth Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 Hi guys! Time to show what I have done for now! I only worked on the concept art of the card. Because this is The Magician, I wanted to add as many references as possible to the Sacred Geometry. I have the Flower of Life, the Chakras and the Tree of Life from the Kabbalah. Only the Chakras will remains visible (unless I change my mind). The magician will be fully drawn, not just a silhouette and I'll have a background. The setting will be inspired by the medieval. The altar is only a quick copy-paste of my own altar concept, it won't be 100% the same, but will have the 4 tools (Wand, Athame/Sword, Chalice, Pentacle) and the 4 elements of magick (Air, Fire, Water, Earth). I decided to add the Hebraic letter (Beith) and the astrological (Mercury) correspondences for those you works with the alchemical/esoterical tarot. Anyway, the real work will begin this weekend! Lots of fun! Here are two views of the concept:
Grandma Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, Morsoth said: Only the Chakras will remains visible I'm confused - which parts will NOT be visible? I think I like it, but I'm not sure what "it" is! Would it be possible for you to remove what will be removed and show us again, or do I not understand what you meant?
geoxena Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, Morsoth said: I only worked on the concept art of the card. Because this is The Magician, I wanted to add as many references as possible to the Sacred Geometry. I have the Flower of Life, the Chakras and the Tree of Life from the Kabbalah. Only the Chakras will remains visible (unless I change my mind). Hi! So this is a mock-up of art you will hand-draw? I like the idea of a medieval setting! Are the gridlines there in the second image just to line things up?
Grandma Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 25 minutes ago, Symph said: OMG you just made my WEEK!! hahaha my wife cracked up too!! Goody! Thanks for letting me know! Actually I crack myself up with my cartoons on a regular basis....
Morsoth Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) Let say it will "ressemble" this, but the figure will have clothes and a face: All the grids will be invisible. It is only a pattern for using Sacred Geometry in my drawings. Absolutely nothing is drawn yet. I only showed the concept and the hidden pattern. I think it add some magickal oomph. Tomorrow I'll use that layout and draw the card on another page. I'll scan it and "ink" and add color in Photoshop! Edited January 31, 2020 by Morsoth
Morsoth Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 Thank you! The chakras will remains visible, but it will be subtle: headband, necklace, belt buckle, etc.
Symph Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 23 minutes ago, Morsoth said: Let say it will "ressemble" this, but the figure will have clothes and a face: All the grids will be invisible. It is only a pattern for using Sacred Geometry in my drawings. Absolutely nothing is drawn yet. I only showed the concept and the hidden pattern. I think it add some magickal oomph. Tomorrow I'll use that layout and draw the card on another page. I'll scan it and "ink" and add color in Photoshop! I think I get what you're saying, I really like the background and everything, the umm... shadow figure as it is right now... kinda looks like a highschool shop teacher from the 50s hahahaha If that's what you're going for I don't wanna knock it without seeing the finished product, but I'm guessing he'll actually look quite a bit different from that then? Everything else makes perfect sense to me, loving the witchy feel of the background most of all.
Morsoth Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 Don't worry! It won't be John Travolta dancing Saturday Night!!! He will likely wear a ceremonial robe! 😄
Symph Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Morsoth said: Don't worry! It won't be John Travolta dancing Saturday Night!!! He will likely wear a ceremonial robe! 😄 BWAHAHAHA I had a feeling it wasn't gonna stay quite like that hahahaha I'm on board then too!! Looks great!!
Symph Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 Now you've got me wanting someone to make a mock "Saturday Night Fever" themed deck with John Travolta in a white jumpsuit as the magician card LMAOOOOOO
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