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Good evening all! I recently felt the itch to get back into more historic decks and stumbled across this deck. I did search the forum but it doesn’t seem to have had much discussion in its own right. It’s not *technically* a TdM but the author has aimed to delve into the history of tarot in creating it (ie pre Golden Dawn interpretations). I absolutely love the art style and consistent colour coding of the suits (even though the choice of fiery red for Swords and deep blue for Batons seems unusual, it actually works for me somehow, even though the Batons are still about willpower and so, fire!) I only just received the deck and its compan…

I don't need this. I have plenty of TdM-type decks. OTOH, I don't have a Besancon. And Mr. Valenza probably thinks I've forgotten him, since I haven't ordered anything in a good while. He shows incredible restraint here. Nothing is changed, no demons, banana boobs or bat wings. Just Bensancon: https://deviantmooninc.com/products/the-resurrected-kirchnerbesancon-tarot-1850?variant=32335932391495&goal=0_4f694d0d2d-38b75df2e7-202162773&mc_cid=38b75df2e7&mc_eid=44e147761a

Lo Scarabeo seems to be mining the same 1880s deck based on the 1835 Soprafino deck by Carlo Della Rocca, and I'm getting confused. The Lo Scarabeo Classical is mostly the same as Lo Scarabeo's Ancient Italian Tarot, with minor redrawings of some faces, some recoloration of garments, and the Classical has that wide left border with the card name repeated in several language that Lo Scarabeo sometimes does. (I like the look of the Ancient Italian deck, but not the redrawn faces.) (And I read on a blog that "the original Della Rocca deck was itself based on a deck which has also been reproduced with minimal changes by Lo Scarabeo as ‘The Ancient Tarot of Bologna…

Just wanted to let you all known that I have started a TdM reading Circle The Language of the Birds - TdM Circle - Comte de Mellet - The World’s Oldest Spread You can find it here and I would be very happy to have any of you along to join in for a little rest-bite away from all this Lockdown insanity that's hit us all just of late. AeonHorus

Hi Guys Quick question ... What are your favourite keywords for the majors and Pips. Not necessarily the most historically correct but the ones that ring true the most when reading the TdM. Majors 0. Le Mat I. Le Bateleur II. La Papesse III. L'Impératrice IIII. L'Empereur V. Le Pape VI. L'Amoureux VII. Le Chariot VIII. La Justice VIIII. L'Ermite X. La Roue de Fortune XI. La Force XII. Le Pendu XIII. (La Mort) XIIII. Tempérance X…

Hi guys I just found this movie starring and about Enrique Enriquez. I've not heard of him before but I bet a few of you have. He has an interesting and yet intuitive approach to reading the TDM. I thought of you @gregory when I saw it and if you haven't seen it already then I suggest you do. I'm pretty sure you will like it. It is called Tarology and you can find it here! Hope you guys like it! Aeon

Hey guys I'm looking into a nice authentic TDM deck to use and to gain an understanding into this school of thinking. I have narrowed it down to three decks, two of which are held in high regards one of which I am having trouble to identify but it looks really nice, limited edition, but is it authentic to the time. @katrinka I would love your input on this. Here are the decks First 2 images is the deck I can't find info on But I really love the look of it! This is Jodorowsky's Deck I have his book This is Yoav Ben-Dov's deck So…

Just a heads up that Sullivan Hismans is working on a second edition of the Budapest Tarot. https://www.tarotsheetrevival.com/en/budapest-tarot/ Updates are on Facebook and Instagram but it looks likely to be released in the next few weeks. It’s a real gem of a deck - easy to read with and interesting from a tarot history point of view too.

So, I really, really like this deck... the artwork is charming and the cardstock and card backs are dreamy. I have a major problem though, or shall I say MINOR? How do you tell the bastoni/clubs from the spades/swords? They look SO similar! At first glance I thought, okay, the swords have crests (which I hope is the correct term for this type of decoration) and the clubs have leaves - but then this: 2 of clubs - leaves 3 of clubs - crest 4 of clubs - leaves 5 of clubs - crest 6 of clubs - leaves 7 of clubs - crest 8 of clubs - leaves 9 of clubs - crest 10 of clubs - crest 2 of swords - crest …

Hello all! I was a longtime member of Aeclectic who recently got back into tarot in order to learn to read the Tarot de Marseille, and I joined this forum because it appears to have more active discussion of the topic than many others. I look forward to learning from all of you and helping out where I can. Speaking of, I hope that I am posting this in the right place... I was wondering if anyone could help me brainstorm useful spread positions when reading with TdM. I know that many traditionalists dismiss the use of explicit positions and read lines of three to seven cards, and though I've experimented with that a little, I'm interested in creating and workin…

Hallo all! Can someone kindly identify this Tarot de Marseille deck?

THE TRIADIC TAROT (of Marseilles) From the website : A square Tarot de Marseilles with cards that can be turned in any direction. Pips arranged in triads according to a system described by the French occultist Papus. This radically unique deck will spark your intuition and give you a solid system for interpreting the pips. The sixty-page booklet that comes with the deck gives you everything you need to read with it. It’s great fun playing with the possibilities in these cards. More details on Sherryl E. Smith's Tarot Heritage website. https://tarot-heritage.com/2019/11/07/the-triadic-tarot/ I've ordered one from Santa Claus. Shipping only to the St…

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Hello TDM folks, Currently trying to dip my toe into the TDM pool, though I'm a RWS native. However, there are a lot of options, and I don't really seem to understand why I should favor one over the other. My only request is that I can get it somewhere other than Amazon, since I'm trying to reduce my use of that site. Best, Babelite

Hi, guys! I've become obsessed with the specific shade of light teal used in the 1930 "fleur de lis" deck of the Paul Marteau-designed Ancien TdM, and this is where all my troubles start. :)) This deck comes with the distinct variant of having two red coins on the Magician's table instead of two yellow/black dice, as well as an 1890 French tax stamp, and especially a fleur de lis on the 4 of coins. There's a copy of the fleur-de-lis deck on Ebay right now, and you can see all these distinctions in it, along with the very high collector's price. Here's a screenshot of this deck "in action", these colors, I love them so much. …

The Surrealistic Card game of Marseille. The Marseille Game. The Jeu de Marseille is an surrealist variant of the Tarot de Marseille created in March 1941 by artists in exile at Villa Air-Bel in Marseille . In August 1940, the American journalist Varian Fry (1907-1967), a hero who saved between 2000 and 4000 Jews arrives in Marseille as a representative of the Emergency Rescue Committee (American Rescue Committee). His mission was clear and very important for the future of the world: Allow personalities artistic, political or scientific, under the threat of the application of Article 19 of the Armistice Agreement which stipulates the deliver…

Hello tarot fam! This may be old news, but I haven't seen it posted here. Books-A-Million has Mary Packard's TdM kit for $24.95. This looks to be the same one that came out a few years ago, and is currently listed on Amazon for over $80, but it's been repackaged in a box similar to her Golden Tarot (Visconti-Sforza). It says it's still a reproduction of the Madenie TdM, and has the book and bag in it. I'm not sure if this was a well-received variant, but I figured I'd pass the info along. The BAM near me had four on the shelf on Friday. I may grab one and check it out; if so, I'll probably leave a review here or on my blog. For those of you who don't have a BA…

Below the very beginning, maybe the text will be moved towards a special thread? I don't know. Okay stay tuned! Tarot de Marseille Below a translation of the words annotated on the second deck mentioned, the one which belonged to Paul Marteau and that we can find here at the BNF: https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10543303s.item I kept the typos (there are a few unless we wrote these words that way in the past and grammar evolved, it’s possible too). I didn’t translate a few titles like Le Mat and Le Bateleur (Le Bateleur is as times translated as The Juggler but he isn’t exactly a juggler, actually we have the word “jongl…

Link: https://tarot-de-marseille-heritage.com/english/historic_tarots_gallery.html (scroll down) Whether this truly is Mlle Lenormands handwriting or not is still up for debate. But it’s definitely an interesting deck! I believe it will be made available soon.

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I see we're allowed to post stuff from Aeclectic. I don't know if whole posts can be copied, but this is one that I made once, and I'd really love to continue this topic if anyone is interested. (I was "Diana" on Aeclectic eons ago). And if I don't copy the whole post, the discussion can't continue as is needs to have the original introduction. ************************* There are two fathers in the Tarot. IIII and V. (Actually, there are three fathers. The Hermit is a father too, but of another nature). See, they even follow each other sequentially. First… we are taught where out limits are. The Emperor teaches us how to behave in socie…

It's the El Verdadero Tarot De Marsella by Kris Hadar. My deck in Spanish, made in Mexico. Really nice cards, shorter than other TdM's, but wider. A nice feel to them, shuffle easily. A real book, all in Spanich but I don't read those anyway, but I will try the spread in there. Color on the cards is old fashioned/antique as is the box. It appears these are made by V&S. I don't see any tarot cards by them anywhere, but I could be wrong. Research shows these first came out in the '90's and they were meant to be an exact reproduction of TdM's from 1594. None of the PIP cards have numbers which I like. Thats different. There's nothing overwhelmingly different about t…

First, to define a Tarot de Marseille deck... http://l-pollett.tripod.com/cards43.htm "The pattern named after the city of Marseille (southern France) is the most well-known in the world, up to the point of being often considered 'the mother of all tarots', the classic version of this kind of deck. Indeed, it was not the earliest one to be created, and it would be more correct to think of it as the most popular and long-lasting pattern among the several varieties that flourished from the second half of the 15th century to present, some of which did not last very long, or were confined to more restricted geographic areas. The same name 'Tarot of Mar…

The sequential method is a method of fortune-telling with tarot cards that is intended for the fortune-teller who would address certain specific questions concerning the past, the present, or the future by attempting to describe actions, circumstances, and events that may correspond to fact, whether at the time of a reading or subsequent thereto. When using the sequential method, which is intended for use with pattern sheets that are comparable to the Tarot de Marseille patterns, one is able to interpret coat or court cards with relative ease. Vocabulary Builder Adjectival Signification: a signification that is an adjective. Adverb…

The sequential method is a method of fortune-telling with tarot cards that is intended for the fortune-teller who would address certain specific questions concerning the past, the present, or the future by attempting to describe actions, circumstances, and events that may correspond to fact, whether at the time of a reading or subsequent thereto. When using the sequential method, which is intended for use with pattern sheets that are comparable to the Tarot de Marseille patterns, one is able to interpret coat or court cards with relative ease. Vocabulary Builder Adjectival Signification: a signification that is an adjective. Adverb…