TdM

On February 7, @fire cat pickles gave us a heads-up that a 3rd edition of the Yves Reynaud Pierre Madinié 1709 was in the offing. I’ve been checking frequently… and, today I see it’s there! https://www.tarot-de-marseille-heritage.com/boutique/tarot-pierre-madenie-1709-p-30.html?osCsid=447ecd04de20e269e017fb3a7a9532fd I emailed Tarot de Marseille Heritage twice asking if a new edition would be coming out soon, and never heard back, so I went ahead and got a 1st edition from eBay at what I believe was a fair price. But I’m really glad to see this: I’m a bit of a Conver fanatic, but I bet if you polled historical TdM aficianados, the Madenié would be …

Hi all, I'm ready to venture into TdM and have seen someone online selling all these TdM decks. I've tried to check out individual cards to see which version I like best, but I had to give up. They are all beautiful and interesting. I was tempted to just get the replica of the olderst, but that one has rough printing quality, wich is beautifully preserved in the modern copy of course, but the younger ones are possibly easier to read with because they are a. bit clearer, also the coloring of the clothes and objects is better, which is important for the interpretation, as I have already learned in my beginner studies. Tough choice. …

So, I really, really like this deck... the artwork is charming and the cardstock and card backs are dreamy. I have a major problem though, or shall I say MINOR? How do you tell the bastoni/clubs from the spades/swords? They look SO similar! At first glance I thought, okay, the swords have crests (which I hope is the correct term for this type of decoration) and the clubs have leaves - but then this: 2 of clubs - leaves 3 of clubs - crest 4 of clubs - leaves 5 of clubs - crest 6 of clubs - leaves 7 of clubs - crest 8 of clubs - leaves 9 of clubs - crest 10 of clubs - crest 2 of swords - crest …

I see we're allowed to post stuff from Aeclectic. I don't know if whole posts can be copied, but this is one that I made once, and I'd really love to continue this topic if anyone is interested. (I was "Diana" on Aeclectic eons ago). And if I don't copy the whole post, the discussion can't continue as is needs to have the original introduction. ************************* There are two fathers in the Tarot. IIII and V. (Actually, there are three fathers. The Hermit is a father too, but of another nature). See, they even follow each other sequentially. First… we are taught where out limits are. The Emperor teaches us how to behave in socie…

I don't need this. I have plenty of TdM-type decks. OTOH, I don't have a Besancon. And Mr. Valenza probably thinks I've forgotten him, since I haven't ordered anything in a good while. He shows incredible restraint here. Nothing is changed, no demons, banana boobs or bat wings. Just Bensancon: https://deviantmooninc.com/products/the-resurrected-kirchnerbesancon-tarot-1850?variant=32335932391495&goal=0_4f694d0d2d-38b75df2e7-202162773&mc_cid=38b75df2e7&mc_eid=44e147761a

Wanting to get beyond the standard Golden Dawn ways of reading pip cards, I’m looking into the numerological Thesis-Antithesis-Synthesis method described by Knapp in the Knapp-Hall LWB [1929]. Has anyone out there ever tried this? It goes like this: each suite has a keyword: Love for Cups, Hatred for Swords, Enterprise for Scepters, and Fortune for Coins. Knapp breaks down 9 of the 10 pips into 3 groups of 3: 1, 2, 3 —COMMENCEMENT 1….Commencement of Commencement 2….Opposition of Commencement 3….Equilibrium of Commencement 4, 5, 6 — OPPOSITION 4….Commencement of Opposition 5….Opposition of Opposition 6….Equ…

Just when I told myself that I had enough Tarot de Marseille... I bought another one! ;D I saw this deck in a bookstore during my lunch hour and apparently it just got released by Lo Scarabeo, in June 2018 (based on Amazon). There is no video on it on YouTube and no written review as I can see, but I think I'll do a "reveal video" as it might help others. The tarot is a reproduction of the Claude Burdel TdM (1751), with golden foil in the background (like the Golden Universal Tarot or the Golden Visconti). It looks awesome! I made two quick pictures if you want to see what it looks like:

Hi guys I just found this movie starring and about Enrique Enriquez. I've not heard of him before but I bet a few of you have. He has an interesting and yet intuitive approach to reading the TDM. I thought of you @gregory when I saw it and if you haven't seen it already then I suggest you do. I'm pretty sure you will like it. It is called Tarology and you can find it here! Hope you guys like it! Aeon

Everyone knows Caitlin Matthews' name. Her new book, Untold Tarot, hit the bookstores in September. It contains history of the Marseille tarot and how the reading style evolved. She uses several different Marseille decks for illustration. Discusses each major trump card and how to read the pips. Offers different methods of reading including 3 or 5 cards up to tableaux size, including use of houses, and much more. This is THE definitive book to learn or expand your knowledge of Marseille tarot reading. Here's a great review of her book by the Card Geek.

I’ve just noticed that the Queen of this suit is actually labelled ‘Reyne de Baston’ which I think makes her Queen of the fight. I can’t imagine this is a misprint given Dr Ben-Dov’s care in recreating the Conver deck, so I’m wondering what the significance is?

Hi over the last year I have been getting more interested in the open reading way of approaching the major arcana. I have found for me that it gives me greater insight when reading. So I wondered what peoples thoughts and ideas were on this method of reading.

Since a few years back, there exist a Marseille deck printed by Lo Scarabeo under the name Marseille Tarot. It is the fruit of cooperation between Anna Maria Morsucci and Mattia Ottolini. I've been aware of the Marseille subset of tarot decks since back in the 1980s, but what was available then was the post-1970s version of Grimaud's marseilles deck in very dark blue, which makes the lines difficult to distinguish. I didn't warm up to marseilles decks until CBD Tarot became available, because, in that one, the lines are easily distinguishable, and the colour scheme is presumably closer to the original one My question is, when someone new to marseil…

The sequential method is a method of fortune-telling with tarot cards that is intended for the fortune-teller who would address certain specific questions concerning the past, the present, or the future by attempting to describe actions, circumstances, and events that may correspond to fact, whether at the time of a reading or subsequent thereto. When using the sequential method, which is intended for use with pattern sheets that are comparable to the Tarot de Marseille patterns, one is able to interpret coat or court cards with relative ease. Vocabulary Builder Adjectival Signification: a signification that is an adjective. Adverb…

Hallo all! Can someone kindly identify this Tarot de Marseille deck?

Lo Scarabeo seems to be mining the same 1880s deck based on the 1835 Soprafino deck by Carlo Della Rocca, and I'm getting confused. The Lo Scarabeo Classical is mostly the same as Lo Scarabeo's Ancient Italian Tarot, with minor redrawings of some faces, some recoloration of garments, and the Classical has that wide left border with the card name repeated in several language that Lo Scarabeo sometimes does. (I like the look of the Ancient Italian deck, but not the redrawn faces.) (And I read on a blog that "the original Della Rocca deck was itself based on a deck which has also been reproduced with minimal changes by Lo Scarabeo as ‘The Ancient Tarot of Bologna…

Hello. Here are 11 pages of coins from various Tarots de Marseille in my collection (sharper picture here : https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZFhrFgBU-7vX71eyQvKty1WoZgiVjjuq/view ) It's interesting to see them side by side because it shows how dark some decks can be. The picture has been adjusted so that the colours are as close as possible as the real colours on the cards. Of course, what you see depends a lot on your display device. But if you've got a high quality monitor set in sRGB, what you see is very close to what's on the cards. 0 - This card (the Lover) comes from an unknown Grimaud deck (it's written on the top left). I don't have the Pa…

I'm at a loss. I really am. I'm so used to the RWS and more intuitive decks that I'm legit scared to pick up my TdM because I just can't understand it! I've been slowly browsing through this forum for definitive information but Tapatalk is a bit more complicated to find what I'm looking for. So what am I looking for? Gods only know. All I know is that my TdM has been haunting my dreams and that I recall a post here discussing the deck in general but no recollection of who posted it or where it was located. If anyone here, knows how to read them, knows what the pips mean, or knows of any reliable English book sources to learn this deck, I'd greatly appreciate the inf…

On the Use of White and Pink/Flesh Colors in the Tarot de Marseille This is a long post. Here is the TLDR version: The use of white and pink in the Tarot de Marseille, especially the Conver deck, is kind of a big deal. I have been noodling with these ideas for a while. I am presenting them here in draft form and invite feedback. The numbers in parentheses are footnotes. There are notes at the very bottom of the post. I have also posted the essay in my nascent blog, Dispatches from the Cosmic Command Post. ~~~ A great many Tarot de Marseilles (TdM) decks produced in the mid-18th century depict the “pr…

The sequential method is a method of fortune-telling with tarot cards that is intended for the fortune-teller who would address certain specific questions concerning the past, the present, or the future by attempting to describe actions, circumstances, and events that may correspond to fact, whether at the time of a reading or subsequent thereto. When using the sequential method, which is intended for use with pattern sheets that are comparable to the Tarot de Marseille patterns, one is able to interpret coat or court cards with relative ease. Vocabulary Builder Adjectival Signification: a signification that is an adjective. Adverb…

Hi all! I was wondering if any of you have experience with the facsimile Grimaud TdM from a company called Vieux Monde? I've seen listings for this deck (apparently a copy of a 1930 Grimaud?) on eBay and Amazon, and the company has their own website where they sell it and other decks. AFAIK Grimaud (or whoever owns the name) is still printing cards in France, but I don't know if they ship to the US currently. Is this "vintage facsimile" legit? And is the card quality, image quality, etc. any good? Price seems to range from USD30 to 40, depending on the site. I can post a link if it makes things easier, but I didn't want to drive traffic if it's a questionable …

It's Ben Gross's Tarot de Rivesaltes, based on the Pierre Payan 1713 deck. The paintings were made with ceramic paint and porcelin on canvas. The image on the box with has a ceramic-like texture and lustre, and the black lines are raised. The box is truly deluxe, with a magnetic closure and velvet lining. The colors are so lovely, so rich and varied. The border colors on the minors darken and become more intense as the suit progresses. Pretty pips! The Hermit and The Moon are two of my favorite cards in the deck. The Hermit's robe looks so rich and r…

Where would one go to browse historical decks - reproductions, revamps, clones - if one didn't want to pay for shipping from the US? Or generally from outside the EU. I know of Il Meneghello (very expensive) and Tarot de Marseille Heritage (only woodcutty Marseilles). Are we left with mass market decks on Amazon, or are there other small studio alternatives? I know there are artists on Etsy but I'm not sure how/who to look for. Other than Gergely Bagameri, I already have two of his creations. Do you have any favorite creators to recommend? For my general and indie decks I hunt on tarot.nl and Salon des Arcanes but if they carry historical decks at …

I just acquired the Playing Marseille deck. It nicely bridges the gap between TdM and faro playing cards. I'm quite liking it as a reading deck. Over the years, I've been using playing cards for reading more and more (and using tarot less and less). But this deck might bring me back into the tarot fold.

Hello, Here is a comparison between 5 tarots de Marseille that I occasionally use. I won't describe the differences between them. You can find videos on Youtube showing each card. I will rather tell how they look in my eyes and how it feels for me to draw cards with them. As an example, here is the same draw with each of them: Left: -Le véritable Tarot de Marseille, by Kris Hadar I like the deep rich colours of this one. If you get one, try to find the edition with the white box. The one with red and white box has colder colours (that's the one used in the above picture). Right: -Le Tarot de Mars…

The sequential method is a method of fortune-telling with tarot cards that is intended for the fortune-teller who would address certain specific questions concerning the past, the present, or the future by attempting to describe actions, circumstances, and events that may correspond to fact, whether at the time of a reading or subsequent thereto. When using the sequential method, which is intended for use with pattern sheets that are comparable to the Tarot de Marseille patterns, one is able to interpret coat or court cards with relative ease. Vocabulary Builder Adjectival Signification: a signification that is an adjective. Adverb…