TdM

I’ve just noticed that the Queen of this suit is actually labelled ‘Reyne de Baston’ which I think makes her Queen of the fight. I can’t imagine this is a misprint given Dr Ben-Dov’s care in recreating the Conver deck, so I’m wondering what the significance is?

I bought Alejandro Jodorowsky's tarot book, which concentrates on TdM, hoping for more insight into reading my Ancient Italian Tarot. It's not TdM but it does have unillustrated minors (pips). I was not much helped. Although the book has extensive chapters on the courts and numbered cards, the vast majority of example readings in the book were trumps-only. Which seemed to confirm what I've read about TdM readers in the past - in practice, the majority of them read trumps only. So this is my proposal, which I'm framing as a modest and therefore at least somewhat satirical one. If you want to begin reading TdM or other historical decks, throw away everything tha…

I just acquired the Playing Marseille deck. It nicely bridges the gap between TdM and faro playing cards. I'm quite liking it as a reading deck. Over the years, I've been using playing cards for reading more and more (and using tarot less and less). But this deck might bring me back into the tarot fold.

It is on kickstarter til april 22 Someone illustrated the marseilles pips

I found out casually this deck lately, "Le Tarot des Confinés" (i.e "the Tarot of the Confined") 😷 I post the video below. The review is in French so you can just put the sound off and watch what it is about. Of course I don't recommend this at all, but it's an oddity! ETA: on the box (yellow circle) what it is written is that on the price of the deck, 2 Euros will by given to hospitals, I'm not sure if it's serious though 🤪

I see we're allowed to post stuff from Aeclectic. I don't know if whole posts can be copied, but this is one that I made once, and I'd really love to continue this topic if anyone is interested. (I was "Diana" on Aeclectic eons ago). And if I don't copy the whole post, the discussion can't continue as is needs to have the original introduction. ************************* There are two fathers in the Tarot. IIII and V. (Actually, there are three fathers. The Hermit is a father too, but of another nature). See, they even follow each other sequentially. First… we are taught where out limits are. The Emperor teaches us how to behave in socie…

Hello all! I was a longtime member of Aeclectic who recently got back into tarot in order to learn to read the Tarot de Marseille, and I joined this forum because it appears to have more active discussion of the topic than many others. I look forward to learning from all of you and helping out where I can. Speaking of, I hope that I am posting this in the right place... I was wondering if anyone could help me brainstorm useful spread positions when reading with TdM. I know that many traditionalists dismiss the use of explicit positions and read lines of three to seven cards, and though I've experimented with that a little, I'm interested in creating and workin…

I don't need this. I have plenty of TdM-type decks. OTOH, I don't have a Besancon. And Mr. Valenza probably thinks I've forgotten him, since I haven't ordered anything in a good while. He shows incredible restraint here. Nothing is changed, no demons, banana boobs or bat wings. Just Bensancon: https://deviantmooninc.com/products/the-resurrected-kirchnerbesancon-tarot-1850?variant=32335932391495&goal=0_4f694d0d2d-38b75df2e7-202162773&mc_cid=38b75df2e7&mc_eid=44e147761a

Lo Scarabeo seems to be mining the same 1880s deck based on the 1835 Soprafino deck by Carlo Della Rocca, and I'm getting confused. The Lo Scarabeo Classical is mostly the same as Lo Scarabeo's Ancient Italian Tarot, with minor redrawings of some faces, some recoloration of garments, and the Classical has that wide left border with the card name repeated in several language that Lo Scarabeo sometimes does. (I like the look of the Ancient Italian deck, but not the redrawn faces.) (And I read on a blog that "the original Della Rocca deck was itself based on a deck which has also been reproduced with minimal changes by Lo Scarabeo as ‘The Ancient Tarot of Bologna…

Just wanted to let you all known that I have started a TdM reading Circle The Language of the Birds - TdM Circle - Comte de Mellet - The World’s Oldest Spread You can find it here and I would be very happy to have any of you along to join in for a little rest-bite away from all this Lockdown insanity that's hit us all just of late. AeonHorus

Hey guys I'm looking into a nice authentic TDM deck to use and to gain an understanding into this school of thinking. I have narrowed it down to three decks, two of which are held in high regards one of which I am having trouble to identify but it looks really nice, limited edition, but is it authentic to the time. @katrinka I would love your input on this. Here are the decks First 2 images is the deck I can't find info on But I really love the look of it! This is Jodorowsky's Deck I have his book This is Yoav Ben-Dov's deck So…

Hi Guys Quick question ... What are your favourite keywords for the majors and Pips. Not necessarily the most historically correct but the ones that ring true the most when reading the TdM. Majors 0. Le Mat I. Le Bateleur II. La Papesse III. L'Impératrice IIII. L'Empereur V. Le Pape VI. L'Amoureux VII. Le Chariot VIII. La Justice VIIII. L'Ermite X. La Roue de Fortune XI. La Force XII. Le Pendu XIII. (La Mort) XIIII. Tempérance X…

Hi guys I just found this movie starring and about Enrique Enriquez. I've not heard of him before but I bet a few of you have. He has an interesting and yet intuitive approach to reading the TDM. I thought of you @gregory when I saw it and if you haven't seen it already then I suggest you do. I'm pretty sure you will like it. It is called Tarology and you can find it here! Hope you guys like it! Aeon

So, I really, really like this deck... the artwork is charming and the cardstock and card backs are dreamy. I have a major problem though, or shall I say MINOR? How do you tell the bastoni/clubs from the spades/swords? They look SO similar! At first glance I thought, okay, the swords have crests (which I hope is the correct term for this type of decoration) and the clubs have leaves - but then this: 2 of clubs - leaves 3 of clubs - crest 4 of clubs - leaves 5 of clubs - crest 6 of clubs - leaves 7 of clubs - crest 8 of clubs - leaves 9 of clubs - crest 10 of clubs - crest 2 of swords - crest …

Hallo all! Can someone kindly identify this Tarot de Marseille deck?

THE TRIADIC TAROT (of Marseilles) From the website : A square Tarot de Marseilles with cards that can be turned in any direction. Pips arranged in triads according to a system described by the French occultist Papus. This radically unique deck will spark your intuition and give you a solid system for interpreting the pips. The sixty-page booklet that comes with the deck gives you everything you need to read with it. It’s great fun playing with the possibilities in these cards. More details on Sherryl E. Smith's Tarot Heritage website. https://tarot-heritage.com/2019/11/07/the-triadic-tarot/ I've ordered one from Santa Claus. Shipping only to the St…

Hello TDM folks, Currently trying to dip my toe into the TDM pool, though I'm a RWS native. However, there are a lot of options, and I don't really seem to understand why I should favor one over the other. My only request is that I can get it somewhere other than Amazon, since I'm trying to reduce my use of that site. Best, Babelite

How do you guys tell whether a pip is reversed or not? I can tell with coupes and most of the despees, but the deniers and bastons leave me scratching my head. I very very rarely mark my cards, but can I do this for the Marseille or is this considered verboten? I have some readings to perform this weekend so halp!

I just want to anyone who has a passion for the Marseille. I haven't explored the system at all, but I shall do so in the future. I've read that the best books for beginners would be The Way of Tarot by Alejandro Jodorowsky, Tarot - The Open Reading by Yoav Ben-Dov, and Marseille Tarot: Towards The Art of Reading by Camelia Elias. So yeah, if I were just a novice and I wish to start a deep study of the Marseille, do you think these three books would be enough? Or would their teachings be so divergent that I'd only end up getting gob-smacked? Which of the three would you most recommend, or again would you urge us to get all three? Are there other authors you'd advise…

I was spending some time looking at a few of my historical decks and got out some cards to compare. Most of my historical decks are stored away but these ones were at hand. The top row are: Mamanmiyuki, Tarot de Marsella and CBD TdM Bottom row: Vieville and Noblet What I love is how the same card looks so different. The Mamanmiyuki and CBD versions are smiling and look quite approachable. The Marsella Queen looks a little bored. The Vieville looks a bit grumpy to me while the Noblet gives off quite an authoritative air. The latter two don’t look like ladies you want to mess with. [emoji4] This is one of the great attractions for me in collecting the repr…

The Surrealistic Card game of Marseille. The Marseille Game. The Jeu de Marseille is an surrealist variant of the Tarot de Marseille created in March 1941 by artists in exile at Villa Air-Bel in Marseille . In August 1940, the American journalist Varian Fry (1907-1967), a hero who saved between 2000 and 4000 Jews arrives in Marseille as a representative of the Emergency Rescue Committee (American Rescue Committee). His mission was clear and very important for the future of the world: Allow personalities artistic, political or scientific, under the threat of the application of Article 19 of the Armistice Agreement which stipulates the deliver…

Hello tarot fam! This may be old news, but I haven't seen it posted here. Books-A-Million has Mary Packard's TdM kit for $24.95. This looks to be the same one that came out a few years ago, and is currently listed on Amazon for over $80, but it's been repackaged in a box similar to her Golden Tarot (Visconti-Sforza). It says it's still a reproduction of the Madenie TdM, and has the book and bag in it. I'm not sure if this was a well-received variant, but I figured I'd pass the info along. The BAM near me had four on the shelf on Friday. I may grab one and check it out; if so, I'll probably leave a review here or on my blog. For those of you who don't have a BA…

Below the very beginning, maybe the text will be moved towards a special thread? I don't know. Okay stay tuned! Tarot de Marseille Below a translation of the words annotated on the second deck mentioned, the one which belonged to Paul Marteau and that we can find here at the BNF: https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10543303s.item I kept the typos (there are a few unless we wrote these words that way in the past and grammar evolved, it’s possible too). I didn’t translate a few titles like Le Mat and Le Bateleur (Le Bateleur is as times translated as The Juggler but he isn’t exactly a juggler, actually we have the word “jongl…

Link: https://tarot-de-marseille-heritage.com/english/historic_tarots_gallery.html (scroll down) Whether this truly is Mlle Lenormands handwriting or not is still up for debate. But it’s definitely an interesting deck! I believe it will be made available soon.

l am so excited just had two emails one with picture of the box and one with four pictures of the cards. The cards are sumptuous and beyond what l imagined they would be like. Its still all go for the February release. Will try at some point to download the cards here, l am not very techie its frustrating. If others have received the emails perhaps they will show the cards here, pretty please :)